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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    1,203 deaths reported by Florida today.
    Argument from randU fallacy. Covid19 does not kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    So viruses can mutate, and those mutations can mutate. A variant can come from a variant.
    Viruses cannot mutate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Science is research. Science is the process by which research is done.

    Research provides the information we need.
    Science is not a research or a study. Science is not a process. Science is not data or an observation. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    If scientists do research and come to a conclusion based on that research, they typically publish a peer reviewed paper. That paper shares the information that was discovered or verified by the research.

    I am speaking based on what scientists published based on their research.

    On what are you basing your claims?

    Influenza viruses mutate, but not covid viruses? Interesting.
    Science is not a research or study. It does not use consensus. There is no elite voting bloc in science. There is no voting bloc of any kind. Science is not a scientist or any group of scientists. It isn't people at all. You don't get to speak for scientists. You only get to speak for you. Omniscience fallacy.
    Viruses cannot mutate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Viruses mutate all the time. Just because a host cell is used in replication does not mean the virus does not mutate.
    A virus cannot mutate. It is not alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    It has the ability to cause pneumonia and fill the lungs with fluid. That often kills.
    Pneumonia is a bacteriological disease. It can be treated if caught early by using aggressive antibiotics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    A virus is replicated using a host cell. A virus by itself cannot mutate. It cannot reproduce.
    Irrelevant. It does replicate within the host body. And can mutate within the host body. And a variant can replicate into another variant.

    A virus cannot travel either. It cannot go a few inches on it's own. But it can travel the world by replicating itself within the host body, and moving from host to host to host.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    A virus cannot mutate.

    Yes, it can. And it does. That is proven. The fact that is uses the host to replicate does not change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Science is not a research or a study. Science is not a process. Science is not data or an observation. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
    Science is a process by which we discover.

    Science is not an entity. It is a process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Science is not a research or study. It does not use consensus. There is no elite voting bloc in science. There is no voting bloc of any kind. Science is not a scientist or any group of scientists. It isn't people at all. You don't get to speak for scientists. You only get to speak for you. Omniscience fallacy.
    Viruses cannot mutate.
    Science is not an entity in and of itself. It is a search for truth. Truths found through observation, experimentation, and the sharing of data.

    And I have not spoken for anyone. I have reported and shared the data and information discovered by those who have researched. The scientist observes, experiments, and records. Then he reports what he finds in peer reviewed papers and journals.

    I am not speaking for anyone. I am reporting the results of the research of those scientists.


    And viruses CAN mutate. This has been observed by scientists and researchers. The fact that you reject what they observed and learned only shows your own fallacies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Stupid, fat and unvaccinated


    They die or end up with post covid syndrome


    That does not bode well for the Republican party
    As opposed to stupid, fat and "vaccinated"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/covid...b077b735ee5b20

    "Covid is known to make you sick and possibly kill you."

    "The vaccine is known to help you survive Covid."

    "Bottom line, no vaccine for me."
    Not quite
    [url]https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/566755-15-states-are-keeping-covid-breakthrough-cases-under-wraps

    [/urlhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/06/26/cdc-4115-fully-vaccinated-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-with-breakthrough-covid-19-infections/?sh=1c0134dc6993
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Not quite
    [url]https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/566755-15-states-are-keeping-covid-breakthrough-cases-under-wraps

    [/urlhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/06/26/cdc-4115-fully-vaccinated-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-with-breakthrough-covid-19-infections/?sh=1c0134dc6993

    Yes, quite.

    What gives with statements like yours? The purpose of the vaccines and their well known effectiveness shouldn't be the least political but the Right manages to make them so. For whatever idiotic reason.
    What your links point out is that the vaccines don't work all the time, which we have always known.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Because they don't care. They don't care if everyone they love dies, as long as they don't succumb to the libs. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen in this country, but I've given up trying. I'm fine. I have to stop caring about people who don't care about themselves. I've wasted too much energy trying to convince the vaccine defiant. Let 'em die. It appears that's what they want. Go figure.
    your a real idiot you know that ,According to experts, there are a variety of reasons: lack of access to vaccines, a refusal to see Covid-19 as a threat, concern about the vaccines’ side effects, little trust in the vaccines or the institutions behind them, and belief in at least one of several different conspiracy theories. Some of these reasons overlap and compound; for example, if someone doesn’t see Covid-19 as a big threat, they might decide the vaccine isn’t worth the side effects.

    Also people wanting to have kids are Leary this isnt anything new dumb ass many didnt want to get vaxed for measles, mumps, and rubella

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    A virus cannot mutate.
    Repeating the same nonsense does not make it any more accurate.

    A virus CAN, in fact, mutate.

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