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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So?
    So the influenza virus mutates. And the mutations mutate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nothing says any of these bodies died of covid19.
    You do love perpetuating ridiculous conspiracy theories, don't you?

    Doctors and nurses all over the world say people died from covid-19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    LMAO!! Oh so you know that all the influenza variants came from the original and none came from another variant??
    There is no 'original influenza' virus. There are many variants from the influenza series. Influenza is a series, not an individual virus.
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    And, in order for your ridiculous claim to be true, when I virus mutates it somehow loses the ability to mutate again? That is completely ridiculous.
    Viruses can't mutate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Yes, viruses CAN mutate. You say that a variant cannot come from a variant. And now you are saying there can be no variants?
    Nope. Viruses aren't alive. They cannot mutate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Yes, you are correct. But scientific research is done by gov't agencies. And one of the best in the world is the NIH.
    Science isn't a research or a study. Science is not a government agency. False authority fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    I speak for the scientists who published peer reviewed research.

    Who do you speak for when you claim viruses can only mutate once? Who do you speak for when you claim covid-19 does not kill?
    Science does not use consensus. There is no voting bloc in science. Viruses cannot mutate. They are not alive.
    You do not get to speak for scientists. You only get to speak for you. Science is not scientists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    And where do you get the information for that claim? QAnon? YouTube?
    Covid19 has no ability to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Nor am I. I am asking if you think that the tiny amount of virus that enters your body does not replicate, and the small amount of virus you get at exposure is all the virus that is in your body when you are sick?
    A virus is replicated using a host cell. A virus by itself cannot mutate. It cannot reproduce.
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    1,203 deaths reported by Florida today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    So the influenza virus mutates. And the mutations mutate.
    So viruses can mutate, and those mutations can mutate. A variant can come from a variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Science isn't a research or a study. Science is not a government agency. False authority fallacy.
    Science is research. Science is the process by which research is done.

    Research provides the information we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Science does not use consensus. There is no voting bloc in science. Viruses cannot mutate. They are not alive.
    You do not get to speak for scientists. You only get to speak for you. Science is not scientists.
    If scientists do research and come to a conclusion based on that research, they typically publish a peer reviewed paper. That paper shares the information that was discovered or verified by the research.

    I am speaking based on what scientists published based on their research.

    On what are you basing your claims?

    Influenza viruses mutate, but not covid viruses? Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    A virus is replicated using a host cell. A virus by itself cannot mutate. It cannot reproduce.
    Viruses mutate all the time. Just because a host cell is used in replication does not mean the virus does not mutate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Covid19 has no ability to kill.
    It has the ability to cause pneumonia and fill the lungs with fluid. That often kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    So the influenza virus mutates. And the mutations mutate.
    A virus cannot mutate.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
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