Trumpet (09-23-2021)
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radiometric dating is flawed!
Most scientists today believe that life has existed on the earth for billions of years. This belief in long ages for the earth and the existence of life is derived largely from radiometric dating. These long time periods are computed by measuring the ratio of daughter to parent substance in a rock and inferring an age based on this ratio. This age is computed under the assumption that the parent substance (say, uranium) gradually decays to the daughter substance (say, lead), so the higher the ratio of lead to uranium, the older the rock must be. Of course, there are many problems with such dating methods, such as parent or daughter substances entering or leaving the rock, as well as daughter product being present at the beginning.
Trumpet (09-23-2021)
You cut and pasted from a website that publishes someone's opinion,
the author won't even share his name,
the article is not peer reviewed or published in a reputable scientific journal,
the author provides no citations to legitimate scientific literature so that his claims can be validated,
and the only citation provided is to somebody named Jon Covey. A rudimentary Google search reveals Jon Covey is the editor of some obscure creation science newsletter and has never been employed as a legitimate research scientist with expertise in isotope geochemistry.
Moral of the story: your link is not a credible source of reputable scientific information
ThatOwlWoman (09-23-2021), Trumpet (09-23-2021)
My guess is that they genuinely like most aspects of biochemistry, geology, physics, but they cannot be dislodged form their biblical literalism on sensitive topics like abiogenesis or the divine origins of humanity. But they are perfectly willing to write down the scientifically correct answers on a test.
Doc Dutch (09-23-2021)
Heh, good point.
Every human culture that we know of, even those that existed before the invention of writing, has its own creation stories. What hubris some have to believe that *their* myth is superior to someone else's.
And that's why science is the only possible way to explain the age of the planet, life arising (and dying out), and arising again.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
They are accepting the Biblical story of Genesis which, as you know, was passed around the campfires for centuries before being written down about 550 BCE.
Additionally, anyone who thinks God couldn't have created the Big Bang 13.5B years ago and knew how it would all work out is limiting God.
Occam's Razor applies: God gave us brains and expected us to use them. WYSIWYG God would not be dishonest by creating a fake universe.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Cypress (09-23-2021), ThatOwlWoman (09-23-2021)
Cypress (09-23-2021)
Lots of "educated" people refer to climate alarmism as "settled science". Not sure I can agree with that remark.
We may well come to fill in more gaps in the time frames you suggest or even doubly faster but it will all depend on whatever we dig up to prove the theories.
But we certainly can enjoy the discoveries as they keep popping up ! For me its like seeing a flower unfold from a bud. Each advance a bit more beautiful than the one before.
Enjoy the process, don't get hung up on what the end result must be.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
You can frantically google for random links, but the fact is for the most part you are citing opinions and Creation Science websites which are not legitimate sources of information.
But thanks for confirming that conservatism is still infected with science denialism and young Earth creationism, which some on this thread have attempted to deny
Radiometric isotope techniques, like most laboratory methodologies in science, will always be beset by some uncertainties.
The way that scientists deal with that is continual improvement of analytical techniques, and independent corroboration of lab results by other lines of evidence, resulting in a weight of evidence approach.
Wrapping up, frantically googling for random internet links is no way to become scientifically literate. Scientific literacy comes from effort and hard work, including reading reputable source literature and pursuing higher education.
Doc Dutch (09-23-2021), ThatOwlWoman (09-23-2021)
I think the value of world religions is when they largely stick to questions about what it means to live an ethical, authentic life.
As for evangelicals who barely passed High school and deem themselves prepared to throw out 60 years of isotope geochemistry research, well that really does not pass the laugh test.
ThatOwlWoman (09-23-2021)
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