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WTF?Originally Posted by Old Trapper
can you read?? I have been criticizing SIGNATURE STRIKES thru the ENTIRE THREAD
Do you even know what that is? noted is your non-responsiveness to then question of killing terrorists
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you dont seem to understand the targeting criteria by drone operators
a verified identity like Soleimani ( and international terrorist and leader of Iranian Quds)
is a legit strike.
all the criteria was there, and he was known to be a go between of state actors and middle east terrorists
a "white car" driving near something is not verified -that's a signature strike
Surely you understand the difference?
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Sorry. I thought you had said you were against all drone strikes. Guess it is only the sig type. Then too, you make an exception for using them for "high value" targets. So, what is not "high value" about ISIS-K terrorists?
"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
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The reality is that even Soleimani did not present any "Imminent threat" to the US as is required by International Law. But then, your gawds don't even care for US law.
"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
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Internationl law would have him still attacking Israel thru Syria with the Quds,
as well as funding and supporting Hezbollah.
He acted as an enemy combatant high value target. He was mid-east most important interlocutor
It's not like you can bring him to trial; so "law" isnt effective + international law is 2nd to national security.
Every POTUS has made that priority.
It was an needed call and the world and we are better off with him gone.
I cant remember but knowing Biden he probably opposed taking him out
Last edited by anatta; 09-20-2021 at 12:02 AM.
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no prob. yes only the sig,
because of poor intelligence being used as actionable intelligence - killing far too many innocents
The nature of a sig strike means the identity of the target is unknown or not confirmed
The target is at their (signature) behavior
a 'high value' target would be a confirmed identity -to call it high value one has to ID it.
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Use all of the excuses you want to justify the actions of your gawd, however, he was not an imminent threat to the US.
"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
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In other words, you have not a clue as usual:
"High-value target
In United States military terminology, a High-Value Target is a target that an enemy commander requires for completion of a mission. The term has been widely used in the media for Osama Bin Laden and high-ranking officers of Al-Qaeda who are considered essential to the completion of enemy operations. Soldiers are often asked to do all that is possible to capture a HVT alive but, if that is impossible, they are given clearance to fire. Various tasked Joint Special Operations Task Forces have been established for the main purposes of killing or capturing these High Value Targets. Forces assigned to these tasked forces include units mainly from the Joint Special Operations Command such as the US Army Delta Force, US Navy SEAL Team Six, US Army 75th Ranger Regiment and elements of the British Army's SAS. The term has also become associated with secret US DoD programs to capture and interrogate terrorist leaders. HVT language also applies in many other contexts, including the potential targeting of weapons of mass destruction."
"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
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Was So (u)leimani an imminent threat as claimed by some in here? Not according to the trump WH who lied about the event, as usual:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-threat-2020-1
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/u...ni-strike.html
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/did-sol...mminent-threat
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"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
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He was a CONTINUING threat. In the past an in the future.
You are such a Bidenesque fool. Biden drones kids and opposes an actual known threat.
He was a designated terrorist. then he makes goofy statements about causing a war with Iran
Biden opposed killing Soleimani.
https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/7f005499
he day Soleimani died, Joe Biden tweeted that Soleimani deserved to be brought to justice for his crimes against American troops and thousands of innocents throughout the region. However, he reprimanded the Trump administration, echoing similar fears as other politicians that it could trigger a full-fledged war between the two nations. Calling it an 'escalatory move in an already dangerous region', Biden said that although the administration says its goal is to deter future attacks from Iran, this action almost certainly will have an opposite effect.
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unsourced trash. It even says though "kill them if the cant be captured"
Soleimani wasn't going to be captured, nor Baghdadi. Do you want to try to capture Yemen AQAP?
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...ikes-hit-yemen
strikes, which were carried out in the early morning, targeted fighters from the regional arm of al Qaeda, known as AQAP, their equipment and infrastructure, in the Yemeni provinces of Abyan, al Bayda and Shabwah, according to a press release from the US Department of Defense.
Pentagon Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said in the statement that the strikes were conducted in partnership with the Government of Yemen, and were coordinated with President Hadi.
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Trump put a hit on Soleimani for the same reason he dropped the MOAB on 'ISIS caves' .......... "look what a big boy I am!!"
I'll bet you were a uuuge The Apprentice fan
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Your gawd trump killed kids, and you said nothing. Now you want blood when it is Biden. Then too, you are showing you are too ignorant to understand what an imminent threat is under US law.
BTW, what was Irans response to trumps illegal action?
"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
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please go to the kiddie table and dont interrupt the grown ups when we are talking
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the MOAB was use because those fortified cave were used by AQ. bin Laden fled to Pakistan thru Tora Bora
the MOAB was like a giant bunker buster bomb -it destroyed a lot of the caves - no other way to do it short of nukes or dynamite
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