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Thread: Moron Bob Woodward really screwed up on this General Milley scandal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Well bless your heart. Aren't you the sweetest little racist that ever posted here.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/offici...alls-to-china/
    THAT WOULD BE GUANO THE GREAT RACIEST DEMOCRAT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Wow. Do you have as hard a time telling what day of the week it is as you do telling what which month is October?
    No, sonny, do you?

    Trump: 'Nutjob' Milley never told me of calls to Chinese general
    https://nypost.com › 2021/09/15 › trump-nutjob-milley...
    2 days ago — Meanwhile, Christopher Miller, who served as acting secretary of defense between the 2020 presidential election and Biden's inauguration

    Trump: ‘Nutjob’ Milley never told me of calls to Chinese general.'

    Trump: “Milley never told me about calls being made to China,” Trump said in an emailed statement from his Save America PAC. “From what I understand, he didn’t tell too many other people either. He put our Country in a very dangerous position but [Chinese] President Xi [Jinping] knows better, and would’ve called me.”
    Last edited by Earl; 09-17-2021 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    He informed the Chinese that we would tell them BEFORE we start bombing.

    That is not his decision to make. Do you think President Trump would have approved that decision. Milley jumped the chain of command.

    Either up your game or I will stop posting to you.

    Good grief.
    Ok, how is telling them that against the law or orders or even policy? Its just a trick to keep them calm.
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Ok, how is telling them that against the law or orders or even policy? Its just a trick to keep them calm.
    See post no. 32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Esper is in the chain of command.
    Milley wasn't and isn't. He was and is in a staff position as an advisor. He shouldn't have been doing anything with any foreign military especially making deals about telling them what the US was or wasn't doing politically and diplomatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Milley wasn't and isn't. He was and is in a staff position as an advisor. He shouldn't have been doing anything with any foreign military especially making deals about telling them what the US was or wasn't doing politically and diplomatically.
    he gave Xi a head's up about Trump's total instability and psychotic tantrums........better a phone call than WWIII dimwit

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    the nation is thrilled to have a man of Milley's character and sobriety to serve THEM, not some criminal psychopath that a bunch of hicks plus Putin installed.... people can rest assured a doped up maniac like Trump can't start a World War while they're asleep at night. God bless General Milley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    He thought he'd make his enemy trump look bad by telling america about how even General Milley considered trump dangerous. But it's backfired. He instead made the military brass look bad by showing how many of them are woke america-hating traitors working with china. HAHAHA
    This is a great window into how treasonous and out of touch our elites are....Woodward is very well connected but all he knows I think are the siloed Coastal Elites, the members of his class.....he is completely ignorant about what the rest of America is.... thus the miscalculation.

    We have been betrayed by our leaders.
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Do you mean like the Sec of Defense that was on the first call to China?
    Miller denies he gave permission or knew of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    he gave Xi a head's up about Trump's total instability and psychotic tantrums........better a phone call than WWIII dimwit
    And, that was illegal under our Constitution, the UCMJ, and federal law. A general has no--NO--authority to be conducting diplomacy of any sort with the government of a foreign power. It doesn't matter one iota if Trump were completely sane or insane, Milley had no authority to do what he did--NONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Ok, how is telling them that against the law or orders or even policy? Its just a trick to keep them calm.
    please tell me this is a joke post

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Miller denies he gave permission or knew of it
    Keeping in mind that people lie all the time this deeply into this next dark age.
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    the nation is thrilled to have a man of Milley's character and sobriety to serve THEM, not some criminal psychopath that a bunch of hicks plus Putin installed.... people can rest assured a doped up maniac like Trump can't start a World War while they're asleep at night. God bless General Milley
    Actually, all the polling and other stuff on this incident says exactly the opposite of that. Most Americans think Milley should resign immediately or be fired. A majority think his actions were chargable as a crime. You are in a distinct minority here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Keeping in mind that people lie all the time this deeply into this next dark age.
    true but he has no ox to gore in this. Esper is Swampish

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    And, that was illegal under our Constitution, the UCMJ, and federal law. A general has no--NO--authority to be conducting diplomacy of any sort with the government of a foreign power. It doesn't matter one iota if Trump were completely sane or insane, Milley had no authority to do what he did--NONE.
    no it's not illegal, any member in uniform can disobey an order if he deems it illegal

    Service members of the United States Armed Forces are required to disobey orders that violate the law. As retired Marine Corps General John Allen recently said: “When we swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution…one of those is to ensure that we do not obey illegal orders.” While the Uniform Code of Military Justice demands obedience to the lawful orders of a superior commissioned officer, it equally demands disobedience when the order given is illegal. Military leaders such as Lieutenant General Sean MacFarland have spoken out to reaffirm that the U.S. military will not commit war crimes: “We are bound by the laws of armed conflict. And you know at the end of the day, it doesn't only matter if you win, it matters how you win.” Both international and domestic courts have a robust history of convicting service members who carried out unlawful orders. When former Nazis claimed to have just been following orders, this defense was unequivocally rejected during the Nuremberg trials.

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