Earl (09-17-2021)
You people are SO easily fooled by Fox 'News' and talk radio.
You are ready to destroy a mans career over a book whose allegations you likely do not believe, and a book where the claims are so vague they could fit into perfectly acceptable legal categories of actions required for his job.
Until a white girl went missing on a trip West, Fox was facinated with its 24/7 attempt to run General Milley out of his military career, because "Trump", thats why.
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
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LOCK HIM UP!
Earl (09-17-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021), PoliTalker (09-17-2021)
Hello Jarod,
Milley's not going anywhere.
It's just more emotional sensationalism.
A total non-story being used to whip up hatred and anger.
Get some attention. Get viewers all shocked. Hit 'em with some advertising right when they are at the height of emotion. It totally works. Sell some products. Capitalism at it's ugliest.
Fox should be ashamed.
But they love the money too much for that.
Fox abandoned any credibility a long time ago.
Hiring Tucker Carlson totally sealed the deal. As if O'Reilly wasn't bad enough.
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Earl (09-17-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021)
4,487
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021), PoliTalker (09-17-2021)
One result of our trying to not overregulate the media is that Fox News is allowed to call itself "news."
Real news would be completely wasted on people who believe that Fox is news,
given that they couldn't begin to comprehend it,
so maybe that's how things settled to where they are.
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Earl (09-17-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021), Jarod (09-17-2021), Phantasmal (09-17-2021)
not so fast. it is true the highly paid talking heads all jump on the treason bandwagon, and most daytime talking heads, but their chief military expert, General Keane, and their top military reporter, Jennifer Griffin, both reported what Milley did was completely normal and above-board on Martha McCallum's show....
Retired general defends Mark Milley's calls to China on Fox News: 'Being sensationalized'
Retired Gen. Jack Keane appeared Wednesday on The Story With Martha MacCallum, where he came to the defense of Gen.Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In their upcoming book Peril, Bob Woodward and Robert Costa report that Milly made secret calls with China in October 2020 and January 2021 over fears former President Trump might start a war. The authors claim that the purpose of the calls was to assure his Chinese counterpart that Trump would not start a war.
While Republicans have become enraged by the reporting, calling Milley’s actions treasonous, and calling for him to resign or be fired, Keane says the calls were nothing out of the ordinary.
“Gen. Milley’s making a phone call to provide reassurances, which is his job,” Keane said. “I mean, he's executing his responsibility and he’s doing it in concert with his own advisers and then sharing that with the interagency.”
Keane also said that the president not being briefed on the calls was nothing unusual, and believes the whole story is being overblown.
“I don’t see anything that is undermining the civilian control of the military,” Keane said. “If you took the facts, that are, I think, being sensationalized in this report, that would be an issue, as you (McCallum) just regurgitated here. But that is not what the Pentagon is reporting. It seems to be pretty much in sync with what we're used to seeing.”
One of the points of outrage among some is the report that Milley made these calls in secret, with some critics believing he was undermining Trump, as has been the message in some segments on Fox News’s primetime shows. But Fox’s own Jennifer Griffin reported on Wednesday that the calls were in fact not secret, and that they were coordinated with multiple high-level Pentagon officials. It was even reported that Trump’s Secretary of Defense Mark Esper took the lead in the first call.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6272717027001#sp=show-clips
Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021)
This!!!
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LOCK HIM UP!
You would think the story should be, Trump is so crazy that the military had to reassure China that we wouldn't launch a nuclear attack. That seems to be what Fox is admitting when they attack Milley.
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Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-17-2021)
Fox News is an oxymoron.
4,487
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
Although I have other bones to pick with Milley, in this case I will withhold judgement until he testifies on the hill(next week, if I recall). Woodward works for the fucking washinton post after all, and I wouldn’t put that rag down on the floor for a dog to shit on.
But this morning, ON TALK RADIO, I listened to an interview with chuck todd(PMSNBC), who had a very plausible explanation for this totally illogical situation. He said that milley’s staff said it was the nervous chinese who initiated contact, and told Milley something they had HEARD. To paraphrase, Milley said “I don’t know what you heard, but it’s all bullshit”. Perfectly logical and legal response to a query from one enemy command authority to another, and NOT done through back channels as reported. If all this is true, there should be transcripts and even recordings and all kinds of vindman-like minions listening in, right?
That being said, I want to see him gone because of Afghanistan. I can’t believe field marshal von bidenfuehrer’s demented “plan” for that shit show met with approval from that guy, much less ANY of the joint chiefs. If they had any input at all(and I’m sure they did), they should have raised hell in a public forum and/or resigned in protest.
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