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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Never heard it seriously argued that the attack on the Capitol was "organized", i.e., planned in detail. The rally was planned. The march to the Capitol was planned.
    of course -it was scheduled but if you want to use the word plan that's fine as well

    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The incitement of the mob was planned in which Trump played the leading role.
    nope. you just jumped the shark without evidence for your accusation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    After the summer of leftist violence around the Capitol *there was absolutely no excuse* for the lack of security.
    When did the "leftists" trash Congress? If they had done, or attempted to, you might have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The mob did not become riotous until it reached the Capitol, that's correct. Why would they? But many had come prepared for riot. That was obvious in how some dressed and the gear some carried. The whole point of the rally was to stir them up. One speaker after the other called them to action. I think a big reason for the lack of security was that officials did not anticipate that the Capitol, with a sitting Congress, would be attacked by Americans that day for the first time in history. As you point out, the attack itself was not expressly planned, only its ingredients were put in place - the thousands of loyal supporters, the rally and the march. Officials did not know what would be said at the rally, that the crowd would emerge from it as an angry mob. Maybe they should have.
    The Capitol Police were warned. a couple times. There were multiple warnigs -
    im not that interested in the exotic specifics to bother to look them up.

    It was lax security -including the Cap police opening doors to the Capitol that excited the mob.
    At best it was a riot..but Dems cant use riot for their narrative...so it's back to hyperbolic "insurrection"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    When did the "leftists" trash Congress? If they had done, or attempted to, you might have a point.
    not what he said He said "around the Capitol". The best term is various leftist riots in DC
    which they also did nothing about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    ‘Maybe should have’ lol?

    After the summer of leftist violence around the Capitol *there was absolutely no excuse* for the lack of security. Trump supporters may not have been as violence prone as the lefties during 2020 but they didn’t mean they were totally incapable of it.

    You have a contradiction on your hands whether you realize it or not. On the one hand it was so apparent that Trump was purposefully inciting a riotous mob that he should be charged with incitement; but no one was particularly clued in on it, so security was lax.

    Doesn’t add up. It has to be one way or the other but it can’t be both ways at once.
    There was security, much more than customary when the building is closed. It just wasn't enough. As I said, there seems to have been a failure of imagination that American citizens would storm the Capitol building, something that had never happened before. But why is insufficient security an excuse for Trump? He knew the building was closed and guarded. Yet he called on the rally crowd to attend the Senate session and watch Pence. He called on thousands to do that - go watch Pence in a chamber that holds about 150 observers and is only open to visitors with passes, when it is open. Yet Trump sent many hundreds on a mission to enter that locked and guarded building and that closed to visitors chamber.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    I GUESS YOU BETTER GET HIM TO TELL THE FBI!!!! HIS OPINION =/= LEGAL EVIDENCE".....DUMBASS.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    FOR SOME REASON...THE FBI DOESN'T CONSIDER HIS OPINION TO BE LEGAL EVIDENCE, EITHER, FUCKHEAD...
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Never heard it seriously argued that the attack on the Capitol was "organized", i.e., planned in detail. The rally was planned. The march to the Capitol was planned. The incitement of the mob was planned in which Trump played the leading role. Other than that the mob was left to its own devices in doing what it could to interfere with Congress's "certification" of the election.
    WHERE THE FUCK YOU BEEN???
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Nope.

    Trump never intended the marchers to become a riotous mob, and no one, can prove otherwise. Why would he? How did the 1/6 riot benefit Trump in any form or fashion? It was an unmitigated disaster from a political standpoint. No one can answer that.

    It was such a political disaster that democrats couldn’t have planned it any better. It was the perfect outcome—for them.
    NOT TO MENTION, "INSURRECTIONISTS" DON'T SHOW UP UNARMED...AN OBVIOUS REALITY THAT ESCAPES THE DESPERATE, DELUDED MORONS OF THE LEFT....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    That Trump lacked the foresight to anticipate the political disaster he wrought hardly exonerates him. His long delay in calling off the mob further implicates him.

    What did he think his thousands would do when they reached the Capitol and found it locked and guarded - hold hands in a ring around the building and sing, "We Shall Overcome"?
    HORSE SHIT. HE HAD NO CONTROL OVER A FEW HUNDRED UNARMED PROTESTORS WHO GOT ROWDY.


    BIG FUCKING DEAL...THEY DIDN'T LOOT, BURN , RAPE, OR MURDER ANYONE, LIKE THE DEMTHUGS DID FOR OVER A YEAR....WHILE THE PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS CAMPAIGN BAILED THEM OUT TO DO IT AGAIN...AND AGAIN...AND AGAIN....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    APPARENTLY, HIS OPINION IS NOT LEGAL EVIDENCE, EITHER.


    HOW SAD FOR YOU....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Never heard it seriously argued that the attack on the Capitol was "organized", i.e., planned in detail. The rally was planned. The march to the Capitol was planned. The incitement of the mob was planned in which Trump played the leading role. Other than that the mob was left to its own devices in doing what it could to interfere with Congress's "certification" of the election.
    The unmistakable sound of backpeddling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    maybe because everybody knows how stupid and incompetent racist trump stooges are.
    SAYS ONE OF THE ASSHOLES WHO SUPPORT MURDERING MORE BLACK BABIES THAN THE KLAN EVER DID TOTAL BLACKS........
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Who ever said Trump was directly involved in planning and executing the events of January 6th?

    You start with a misconception and then praise yourself for proving the misconception bogus, weird, and you really thought you had something there, funny
    EVERY ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES....AND THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND OF SERIOUS "CONSPIRACY"....FROM ANYONE.

    THERE WERE NO PALLETS OF BRICKS MAGICALLY WAITING FOR THEM ,AS IN THE DEADLY DEMTHUG RIOTS FOR OVER A YEAR....


    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    There was security, much more than customary when the building is closed. It just wasn't enough. As I said, there seems to have been a failure of imagination that American citizens would storm the Capitol building, something that had never happened before. But why is insufficient security an excuse for Trump? He knew the building was closed and guarded. Yet he called on the rally crowd to attend the Senate session and watch Pence. He called on thousands to do that - go watch Pence in a chamber that holds about 150 observers and is only open to visitors with passes, when it is open. Yet Trump sent many hundreds on a mission to enter that locked and guarded building and that closed to visitors chamber.
    Trump told the marchers to “enter the Capitol”?

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