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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    What a shame, it’s a rural facility much needed by its community. It would be a huge loss to the community. I’m sure the locals will understand the hesitancy of the staff to get the jabs as grandma is dying and needs to be flown or driven to the nearest facility.
    It's hard to believe that there are health care workers who care so little for their patients that they won't protect them by protecting themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The CEO of a hospital in Texas is cautioning that his facility is facing possible closure following President Biden's announcement last week that healthcare workers will be required to receive the COVID-19 vaccination.

    If the mandate takes effect, the Brownfield Regional Medical Center will likely lose 20-25% of its staff, CEO Jerry Jasper says. Without those employees, the hospital will likely shut down.

    The Biden administration has ordered that healthcare workers who staff hospitals and facilities that receive either Medicaid or Medicare funds must receive the vaccine or lose federal funding.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...accine-mandate
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    Totally predictable and totally needless.

    There just isn’t any compelling science which indicates that young healthy people should be vaccinated and a significant portion of healthcare workers are in the young/healthy cohort. The vaccines don’t even stop transmission.

    Finally, since it’s known that naturally acquired immunity is actually stronger than artificial immunity, a better course would be to simply allow infected workers to self quarantine and then come back and they would be effectively vaccinated. Better than vaccinated, actually.

    Follow the science.
    I still think the jab + acquired immunity is the way to go. but no boosters.
    Boosters are just more mRNA for the alpha spike protein.

    But that'smy decision based on what I know - other have other decisions.
    We also know getting vaxxed per se doesn't mean you dont transmit ( as I know it)

    So thinking the vaxx is life or death around you is wrong headed, and a fascist move.
    Do I not own my own body? Can I not decide what to jab in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    It's hard to believe that there are health care workers who care so little for their patients that they won't protect them by protecting themselves.
    It is hard to believe. I thought it would change with FDA approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    This is a better article. If you read carefully, you'll see why there's a nursing shortage, and it has nothing to do with vaccines. Nurses are leaving hospital employment to join staffing agencies, who pay far more. This has been a problem for decades, not just now.

    https://www.kcbd.com/2021/09/14/rura...ccine-mandate/

    The vaccine thing is just being used as an excuse not to pay staff better.
    The title was designed to spread right wing propaganda is the point that I was making, and I'm not at all surprised that there's really nothing behind these sensationalized headlines; this is the typical way that these questionable news site operate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    It's hard to believe that there are health care workers who care so little for their patients that they won't protect them by protecting themselves.
    so you get vaxxed and you dont transmit?? Hospitals are designed not to pass on communicable disease, and they know how to practice medicine not to transmit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It is hard to believe. I thought it would change with FDA approval.
    You were more optimistic than I. I figured that they'd just find some other excuse. We lost our long-term TV meteorologist (and friend) yesterday. He was fired for refusing to get the vaccine as mandated by the station's parent company. He posted a huge long screed on his personal FB page about getting the ax, "freedom," "choice," and other bullshit. I was totally shocked. I had no idea he was a science-denying moron. So he sacrificed his career for a political b.s. thing. OTOH the station has been pushing all the long-time on-air personalities into retirement because ad revenues are way down due to the pandemic. There were only three of them left, and he was one of them. I think that he was on his way out anyways, after being there for 33 years -- and one of the highest paid employees. The other two who are left announced their upcoming retirements later this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    so you get vaxxed and you dont transmit?? Hospitals are designed not to pass on communicable disease, and they know how to practice medicine not to transmit
    No, you do not transmit the virus if you are vaxxed AND not currently infected. It's science, not magic, and no different than if you have a regular cold, influenza, or chickenpox. If you are not infected, you cannot spread. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    The title was designed to spread right wing propaganda is the point that I was making, and I'm not at all surprised that there's really nothing behind these sensationalized headlines; this is the typical way that these questionable news site operate.
    Exactly. You can pick out a phrase within the story, paste it into Google, and voila! there will be a dozen other RW sites featuring the exact same bogus "news" article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    No, you do not transmit the virus if you are vaxxed AND not currently infected. It's science, not magic, and no different than if you have a regular cold, influenza, or chickenpox. If you are not infected, you cannot spread. Period.
    if you arent infected you dont transmit.. vaxx or no vaxx. Vaxxes dont stop infections either;
    they interfere with viral replication to reduce the viral loading and (hopefully) avoid the cytokine storm

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Exactly. You can pick out a phrase within the story, paste it into Google, and voila! there will be a dozen other RW sites featuring the exact same bogus "news" article.
    That's exactly right
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    It's hard to believe that there are health care workers who care so little for their patients that they won't protect them by protecting themselves.
    Ever give thought to the fact they may be a whole lot more informed than you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Dutch View Post
    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Only conclusion. Going to a Christian school causes you to be a mass murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    if you arent infected you dont transmit.. vaxx or no vaxx. Vaxxes dont stop infections either;
    they interfere with viral replication to reduce the viral loading and (hopefully) avoid the cytokine storm
    Wrong. They are ~90-94% effective at PREVENTING infection. Those unlucky few who get infected are far less likely to be hospitalized and/or die. They can, however, transmit the virus as long as they are actively infected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    Ever give thought to the fact they may be a whole lot more informed than you?
    That's rather doubtful since I am also a health care worker. I am a nurse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    You certainly don't live on planet earth.
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