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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So, being unable to make change at a cash register is not a 'life skill' to you?
    Algebra isn’t required to be able to “make change at a cash register.”

    Not every high school student should have to take algebra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    We started algebra in 8th grade middle school.
    Mine was called Junior High School ... and yes, we started algebra then also

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    But maybe I just wasn't aware that there was a second track for grease monkeys who just wanted to take Auto shop class.
    We had three types ... college prep, business, professional ... AND ... the irony of the whole thing is that many of the 'professional' track folks made more money than the rest ... auto shop and welding paid off handsomly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Contextomy fallacy. Semantics fallacy. Graduating students from high school without being able to do algebra, or even arithmetic is a problem. Students do not know history, science, mathematics, or even how to form an English sentence properly, yet they graduated high school.
    You forgot those who can't even read their diploma which is nothing more than an "I was there once in a while" certificate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Now 20 states require Algebra to graduate from high school.
    Have you ever looked at the actual state requirement for successful algebra completion ??? Algebraic addition, subtraction and multiplication ... algebraic division requires knowlege of fractions ... and we all know how well the gameboy crowd loves that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    Algebra isn’t required to be able to “make change at a cash register.”

    Not every high school student should have to take algebra.
    Too tough for you to handle, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Have you ever looked at the actual state requirement for successful algebra completion ??? Algebraic addition, subtraction and multiplication ... algebraic division requires knowlege of fractions ... and we all know how well the gameboy crowd loves that.
    You can't write computer games without algebra, trigonometry, matrix mathematics, and extensive knowledge of advanced algorithms and data structures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Too tough for you to handle, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You can't write computer games without algebra, trigonometry, matrix mathematics, and extensive knowledge of advanced algorithms and data structures.
    I sure hope you haven't misunderstood what I am saying ... I am ALL FOR ALGEBRA AND THE ADVANCED MATHEMATICS ... My point is ... the algebra that is being taught is devoid of ALL the elements. Yeah, the kid can add two A and three A ... but can't divide two A and three A . BTW ... how many HS grads know ALL the multiplication tables ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    I sure hope you haven't misunderstood what I am saying ... I am ALL FOR ALGEBRA AND THE ADVANCED MATHEMATICS ... My point is ... the algebra that is being taught is devoid of ALL the elements. Yeah, the kid can add two A and three A ... but can't divide two A and three A . BTW ... how many HS grads know ALL the multiplication tables ???
    By “ALL” I am assuming you mean through 12 x 12. I’ll venture about 15% of high school grads. Sad but true from my experience. Then the number that know their perfect square numbers through 400 (20 x 20) … I’d say that number drops to less than 3%. I wish it were better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Where is funding mentioned anywhere in the article? Did you read what's being proposed?
    That's why I call her PoliBullshitter, truly odious nasty woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    By “ALL” I am assuming you mean through 12 x 12. I’ll venture about 15% of high school grads. Sad but true from my experience. Then the number that know their perfect square numbers through 400 (20 x 20) … I’d say that number drops to less than 3%. I wish it were better.
    That's truly insane, I'll also guarantee that they can't do mental arithmetic to save their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Too tough for you to handle, eh?
    You've picked on the wrong one, LR is a smart man who teaches maths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    That's truly insane, I'll also guarantee that they can't do mental arithmetic to save their lives.
    my skills are fading; tournament chess games a thing of the past. I was never great , but no patzer either.
    I still have pattern recognition and strategic abilities on par with the high scool kid that beat me last live game
    I played. I could hear my rusty brain wheels counting the moves in my head

    Young minds are nimble and should be able to teach to anything, Need a teach that inspires them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Gov. DeSantis Announces End Of ‘Florida Standards Assessment’ In Schools (msn.com)

    Will ReTrumplicans administer snake handling, vaccine denial and flat earth appreciation credits instead?

    It's so "customizable" not to prove your kids know the three Rs

    It would be great if the DOJ, in particular, were to intervene there and arrest DeSantis at defending and coming to the aid of Florida as a result of this repuke's atrocities of crimes against humanity, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Why?
    Everyone learns differently...has different situations...cognitive, emotional, social, environmental....why not take an approach which will optimize learning?
    (Algebra applications in auto class might very well be much easier to learn for some than just sitting in class staring at the board....Know your students...There are so many options available.... I do think it's important to be able to make change...don't you?

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