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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Gov. DeSantis Announces End Of ‘Florida Standards Assessment’ In Schools (msn.com)

    Will ReTrumplicans administer snake handling, vaccine denial and flat earth appreciation credits instead?

    It's so "customizable" not to prove your kids know the three Rs

    Apparently you only read the headline. Deeper in the story, a whole three paragraphs, he explains why. He has something BETTER. I wish you weren't a dishonest, uneducated hack. Really I do.

    DeSantis said they will be replacing it with progress monitoring which many school districts are doing.

    “This is short individualized check-in assessments three times per year. This will take hours not days to be able to do these assessments. It has three different opportunities, fall, winter, and spring to be able to check in on growth. There’ll be 75 percent less time for testing, which will mean more time for learning. It also informs teachers in real-time during the school year, so they can better help students,” said DeSantis.

    “I do agree and I concur with the Governor and the Commissioner that there are better ways of assessing students rather than relying on one single end-of-the-year assessment that is all inclusive. Obviously we are going to be very attentive to legislative processes that will bring to the state appropriate replacements for these assessments,” said Miami-Dade Schools Superintendent Alberto Carvalho.

    The United Teachers of Dade issued a statement applauding the ending of the FSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That's a progressive thing he's doing. The teachers love it. Why is it you don't like this progressive policy?

    Why not take a progress check several times and make some adjustments during the year instead waiting until the end when it's all over anyway?

    I think it's a good idea.
    McSlawber never read the whole story before emotionally erupting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Kind of like the Trump approach to pandemic testing.
    ^Another triggered leftist clown who can't read.

    BUT TRUMP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ^Another triggered leftist clown who can't read.

    BUT TRUMP!!!
    We are all still waiting on you to get us that evidence that trump graduated at the top of his class with an MBA... I am sure it is just an oversight by you.

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Why do you think the Florida Teachers Unions are behind this?

    Did you support No Child Left Behind and all the standardized testing requirements that came with it?

    When teachers complain we have too much standardize testing do you think they are living in a fantasy world as opposed to reality?
    They probably don't like how the year-end testing is used to punish low performing schools regardless of the background and aptitude of the students. Why would a good teacher ever go to work in a struggling low income community? No, I did not support NCLB.
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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So you have Governor DeSantis and the Florida's Teacher Union in agreement that ending the standardized testing at the end of the year and replacing it with progress monitoring three times a year is a good thing.

    Should people be worried that those two are on the same page or is it a good thing?
    After all I've learned about him I am concerned about anything DeSantis supports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    We are all still waiting on you to get us that evidence that trump graduated at the top of his class with an MBA... I am sure it is just an oversight by you.
    I do not remember seeing this before today ... but methinks building a business empire such as The Donald did ... definately puts him at the top of his class. BTW ... who was and where is the valdetorian of said class ???

    W told the graduating class at his alma something like this ... For those of you who got A's and B's .... congratulations ... for those who got C's ... you too can become President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    They probably don't like how the year-end testing is used to punish low performing schools regardless of the background and aptitude of the students. Why would a good teacher ever go to work in a struggling low income community? No, I did not support NCLB.
    You obviously are completely unfamiliar with your schools...and what a good teacher is...Try to let go of your hate for DeSantis long enough to recognize how great these ideas are....and what a positive difference they will make...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    I do not remember seeing this before today ... but methinks building a business empire such as The Donald did ... definately puts him at the top of his class. BTW ... who was and where is the valdetorian of said class ???
    trump underperformed the stock market in the return on his inheritance. In other words, he is below average.

    Let's give an alternative example: Michael Bloomberg is roughly the same age as trump. Bloomberg started out with NOTHING, and now is worth 20 times as much as trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    They probably don't like how the year-end testing is used to punish low performing schools regardless of the background and aptitude of the students. Why would a good teacher ever go to work in a struggling low income community? No, I did not support NCLB.
    I'm trying to understand the principle behind your position. You say we need testing because otherwise we won't know how bad kids are doing and we're basically living in fantasy but you don't like NCLB which was all about increasing testing to know how bad kids are doing and not live in fantasy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So you have Governor DeSantis and the Florida's Teacher Union in agreement that ending the standardized testing at the end of the year and replacing it with progress monitoring three times a year is a good thing.

    Should people be worried that those two are on the same page or is it a good thing?
    seems more worldish
    I was great test taker- but never did homework ( it was the 60's and I had better things to do after school)

    Some people go to school but are lousy test takers.

    Ideally you need both - you have to perform on command (test taking) and you have to have discipline and
    doggedness to get your daily work done

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    After all I've learned about him I am concerned about anything DeSantis supports.
    Well that makes more sense. You probably didn't even read what the proposed legislation entails it was simply a knee jerk response to who was proposing it. Kind of shocked you would actually acknowledge that, especially after starting a thread claiming Democrats are issue driven, but I guess you should be given credit for honestly. Pretty sad though wouldn't you say that there's no principle involved in what you support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump underperformed the stock market in the return on his inheritance. In other words, he is below average.

    Let's give an alternative example: Michael Bloomberg is roughly the same age as trump. Bloomberg started out with NOTHING, and now is worth 20 times as much as trump.
    Was bloomy the valdetorian in The Donalds class ??? NOT

    Ya might want to fact check yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Was bloomy the valdetorian in The Donalds class ???
    Was trump a valedictorian in his own class?

    Bloomberg was smart enough to get into graduate school, and get a real MBA. trump was not.

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I'm trying to understand the principle behind your position. You say we need testing because otherwise we won't know how bad kids are doing and we're basically living in fantasy but you don't like NCLB which was all about increasing testing to know how bad kids are doing and not live in fantasy?
    Well, it's pretty clear why you're having difficulty in understanding my position. It's because you rewrote my post, made a strawman out of my position, then ripped it to shreds.

    I think testing has value. I don't think funding should be pulled from low performing schools with the intent of seeing them closed down to be replaced with for-profit schools as a reward for huge campaign donations.

    Public schools don't have to earn a profit, so all of the funding goes into education.

    For-profit schools have to pay for all the same things as public schools, and also generate a profit for investors. That profit comes at the expense of education. Logically, the for-profit model is at a disadvantage in providing a good education and generating good jobs.
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