The God Equation

[Cypress]

"Believe in?"

We all?

I guess about some things; I speculate about some things; I hypothesize about some things. I do not hide the fact that I am guessing, speculating, or hypothesizing...by calling it "belief."

So, respectfully as possible, Cypress...not all of us do.

According to the Oxford dictionary, belief is somewhat stronger than baseless opinion, but does not reach the level of an object of knowledge.

It is somewhere in between those two end points.

Therefore, when someone says they believe in natural law, in god, in a certain moral code, I myself cannot really quibble with that, or proceed to explain to them how wrong they are.

Just my two cents

[evince]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...erents_in_2020


Most people are some variation of Christianity


They believe they are the only path to salvation

[Cypress]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...erents_in_2020


Most people are some variation of Christianity


They believe they are the only path to salvation

Christianity and Islam seem to present themselves as the only true path to spiritual liberation. I think that tends to be pretty unique in the pantheon of world religions, but I could be wrong.

[evince]

Christianity and Islam seem to present themselves as the only true path to spiritual liberation. I think that trends to be pretty unique in the pantheon of world religions

Most religious people believe those fractured up faiths


There are many versions


And they can even hate each other’s interpretations

[evince]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qbkgj5J91hE


Eben Alexander: A Neurosurgeon's Journey through the Afterlife
Theosophical Society4,695,605 viewsAug 27, 2014

I know it’s a lot to ask


But did you listen to this guy?

[Cypress]

I know it’s a lot to ask


But did you listen to this guy?

Not yet but I will try to circle back to it

[goat]

What debate?

There are many debates


This is just one debate


So it isn’t THE debate

Are mathematicians close to figuring out the universe?
Should mathematicians receive most of the funding for cosmology?
Will mathematicians come up with the next big breakthrough in astrophysics?
Is there any evidence that a black hole is actually dark matter?

[evince]

I know it’s a lot to ask


But did you listen to this guy?

It’s pretty interesting

Well documented

This famous neurosurgeon had no reason to manufacture these experiences and all the experts and testing said his higher brain was reduced to basically puss infected dead cells


They could not find any explanation for how he was alive let alone with an intact brain






CAUTION: this poster forgot to fully investigate

[evince]

Are mathematicians close to figuring out the universe?
Should mathematicians receive most of the funding for cosmology?
Will mathematicians come up with the next big breakthrough in astrophysics?
Is there any evidence that a black hole is actually dark matter?

Question 1. They are closer every day and discovery


Question 2. Per my Tesla quote I say no


Question 3.I say yes. That is where the finding is


Question 4. I’m not sure. I don’t think so


But Higgs bosen was just an idea for quite awhile until it was proven

[evince]

Are mathematicians close to figuring out the universe?
Should mathematicians receive most of the funding for cosmology?
Will mathematicians come up with the next big breakthrough in astrophysics?
Is there any evidence that a black hole is actually dark matter?

The video before that one is an scholar in the field discussing the field and it’s documented cases



Ooops

I quoted the wrong poster


That was for cy

[Concart]

--->" My own point of view is that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God."<---
This is the Agnostic view.

"ag•nos•tic ăg-nŏs′tĭk►
n. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God."

Disagree with this. The quote suggests that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. So science is agnostic, because God is not part of the natural world. Knowledge about anything is a sliding scale, not an absolute. So I guess that makes me agnostic about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Unicorns, leprechauns, and Harry Potter. It's why I think the term 'agnostic' is a dodge. It implies that both possibilities are equally probable, and they are absolutely not.

[BidenPresident]

Disagree with this. The quote suggests that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. So science is agnostic, because God is not part of the natural world. Knowledge about anything is a sliding scale, not an absolute. So I guess that makes me agnostic about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Unicorns, leprechauns, and Harry Potter. It's why I think the term 'agnostic' is a dodge. It implies that both possibilities are equally probable, and they are absolutely not.

Exactly my point about agnosticism, as well.

[BidenPresident]

Disagree with this. The quote suggests that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. So science is agnostic, because God is not part of the natural world. Knowledge about anything is a sliding scale, not an absolute. So I guess that makes me agnostic about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Unicorns, leprechauns, and Harry Potter. It's why I think the term 'agnostic' is a dodge. It implies that both possibilities are equally probable, and they are absolutely not.

Why don't people say they are agnostic about Zeus? Zeus is a God. Because they start off believing Zeus is a belief by ancient Greeks.
Why pretend the Christian God is no less a cultural construction? Why pretend to be agnostic about that God?

[Jack]

Disagree with this. The quote suggests that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. So science is agnostic, because God is not part of the natural world. Knowledge about anything is a sliding scale, not an absolute. So I guess that makes me agnostic about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Unicorns, leprechauns, and Harry Potter. It's why I think the term 'agnostic' is a dodge. It implies that both possibilities are equally probable, and they are absolutely not.

Well. That is the definition of 'Agnostic'. You can call it whatever you want to call it, but that is the definition.
'God' may or may not be "part of the natural world". There may be some ultimate 'force' out there that created everything. (Probably not an old white guy with a beard that resembles Zeus though)

Concart: "It's why I think the term 'agnostic' is a dodge. It implies that both possibilities are equally probable, and they are absolutely not."
Jack: We all have our opinions. At this point, I can neither prove to myself there is or is not a 'God'. The people that are POSITIVE there IS (or ISN'T) a 'God' are just operating on 'Belief' ... or wishful thinking.

[BidenPresident]

Well. That is the definition of 'Agnostic'. You can call it whatever you want to call it, but that is the definition.
'God' may or may not be "part of the natural world". There may be some ultimate 'force' out there that created everything. (Probably not an old white guy with a beard that resembles Zeus though)

Concart: "It's why I think the term 'agnostic' is a dodge. It implies that both possibilities are equally probable, and they are absolutely not."
Jack: We all have our opinions. At this point, I can neither prove to myself there is or is not a 'God'. The people that are POSITIVE there IS (or ISN'T) a 'God' are just operating on 'Belief' ... or wishful thinking.

I think you are missing his point. You clearly have an idea of God and what God existing means. You only imagine the negation as its opposite.