Cypress (09-14-2021), Guno צְבִי (09-14-2021)
This should come as no big surprise:
"There is a small but loud and forceful group of people who object to wearing masks. Studies indicate that those people generally believe they are ineffective and are violating their civil liberties. Some of those people are increasingly behaving in violent and dangerous ways.
As early as July 2020, the Retail Industry Leaders Association expressed alarm over the number of instances of hostility and violence experienced by front-line employees. That same month, a survey of McDonald's employees showed that 44% had experienced verbal or physical abuse from customers not wearing masks.
These repeated incidents necessitated the CDC to offer new guidance for retailers and restaurants on how to prevent workplace violence from customers. These suggestions included installing panic buttons and cameras, and recognizing the signs that angry customers might be on the verge of violence.
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In June 2021, a customer shot and killed a cashier and wounded a sheriff's deputy at a supermarket after an argument about face masks.
In August 2021, Christopher Key, who calls himself the "vaccine police," live streamed himself and his "Missouri Crew" entering a Walmart Supercenter. The group was targeting the pharmacists who they believe should be "executed" for administering the COVID-19 vaccine. They berated the workers, informing them they have been put "on notice" and that "if they give one more vaccine … they can be hung up … and executed."
The group brought with them "sworn affidavits" that supposedly proved that 45,000 people had died within days of being vaccinated against COVID-19. That belief is based on a lawsuit filed by a group called America's Frontline Doctors (AFLD), recently described in a Time magazine expose as "the 21st-century, digital version of snake-oil salesmen." AFLD was founded by Dr. Simone Gold, who was arrested for her participation in the U.S. Capitol insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021.
A COVID-19 drive-through testing and vaccination site in Georgia was recently forced to shut down after being threatened by a group of anti-vax protesters. Reports indicated that the health care workers were harassed via email and on social media.
Health care workers have repeatedly faced threats for promoting vaccines, especially prominent public health experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Peter Hotez. Both have faced serious death threats. A man was arrested for allegedly sending threatening messages to Dr. Fauci, saying that he and his family would be "dragged into the street, beaten to death and set on fire." Dr. Hotez notes that the threats faced by health care workers have created "an unprecedented culture of antiscience intimidation."
Three men recently ambushed the principal of a school in Arizona. They brought plastic handcuffs, ready to perform a "citizen's arrest." They were upset about the "injustice" of the principal asking a child to quarantine because of possible exposure to COVID-19. One of the men, Kelly Walker, a well-known anti-masker, live-streamed the event on his business Instagram page.
That same victimized principal described some of the death threats she has been receiving, including this ominous warning: "Next time it will be a barrel pointed at your Nazi face."
There is also evidence that extremist groups such as the Proud Boys are behind some of the anti-mask organizing. As some experts have noted, "violence is at the heart" of their ideology.
At a recent school board meeting in Florida, a woman stated that anyone who believes in vaccines or mask mandates in schools is a "demonic entity" and bears "the mark of the beast." She then warned that "all of us Christians are sticking together to take them all out" adding that "all the police officers that kick us out ... will also be going down with them."
Anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers now present a real threat of violence
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Cypress (09-14-2021), Guno צְבִי (09-14-2021)
Damocles (09-14-2021)
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Hmmm ... in the 18th century folks took up arms against what they considered oppression. They chose to deal with it. Now we are supposed to roll over. Hmmm ...
The monster Trump created.
Guno צְבִי (09-14-2021), PoliTalker (09-14-2021), Whythink (09-15-2021)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Whythink (09-15-2021)
PoliTalker (09-14-2021), Whythink (09-15-2021)
BTW, the mask thing is nothing new. A cadre of covidiots invaded our state house in Lansing in March 2020, protesting masks and social distancing and shut-downs, and screamed (mask-less of course) in the faces of the officers charged with protecting the legislators. Several of them were later arrested for hatching a plot to kidnap and possibly murder the governor.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Cypress (09-14-2021), PoliTalker (09-14-2021), Whythink (09-15-2021)
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
We just have the timid all-talk-no-action types here.
They vent their frustrations here, but when faced with mask requirements in public they quietly comply.
I appreciate the ones who can state their views in a polite way.
If I am not replying to some anti-maskers / anti-vaxxers it is likely because they were unable to remain polite and they have found their way to my permanent Ignore List.
Last edited by PoliTalker; 09-15-2021 at 05:44 AM.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
ThatOwlWoman (09-14-2021), Whythink (09-15-2021)
More irate brilliant maskless wonders being thrown off a plane, arguing with flight crew. Other passengers applaud them leaving. Pathetic video here.
Ya think she's drunk?
He tries to throw a punch and wonders why he's being ejected.
"The customers will not be allowed to fly JetBlue in the future."
Last edited by PoliTalker; 09-14-2021 at 10:43 AM.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Whythink (09-15-2021)
So git out your muskets, boys, and get you to the Capitol in time for the #InsurrectionOf9/18! You #Oathkeeper/Threeper boys are gonna be there too, right?
BTW, medical facilities have *always* required their personnel to practice infection control measures, including being tested for TB (invasive), getting vaccinated, wearing gloves and masks, etc. Don't like it? Get another job. Isn't that the Reichtard mantra?
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
Anti-Masker makes plan to 'get even,' waits for employee to get off work, attacks in the parking lot. And it turns into a hate crime...
"It’s the worst incident of “mask rage” in our county since the start of the pandemic: A bank employee apparently was beaten up the evening of Sept. 3 in a racist attack outside the Grover Beach Wells Fargo after he asked a customer to put on a mask.
The victim, who asked us not to use his name, said the customer waited around for a couple of hours and then ambushed him in the parking lot, striking him multiple times and using anti-Latino slurs. That makes this a hate crime."
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
ThatOwlWoman (09-14-2021)
The left is hated for trying to save the lives of rightys and their families. Such deeds are met with hate and violence. What is wrong with rightys? So much anger and so much hate for people who are trying to save them.
It is not painful to mask up and a shot is not that painful. You assume that the power to attack them for trying to help you. Where does that come from?
Stores want to keep their employees and customers safe from a pandemic. How is that an affront to the right?
The 4th right-wing talk show host who said the vaccine should not be taken died from Covid. That is your real message if you can understand it.
Iolo/Penderyn (09-15-2021), PoliTalker (09-15-2021), Whythink (09-15-2021)
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