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    Default do atheists understand Christianity.....

    Catholics are every bit as Christian as Evangelical Protestants.

    Evangelicals are a small minority of world Christianity and do not get to speak for the faith as a whole.

    The authors of the New Testament were not the apostles. They were anonymous, educated Greek-speakers writing four to six decades after Jesus was executed.

    The NT was not written in English, a language which did not exist in the first century. Translating two thousand year old archaic Greek into modern vernacular English involves subjective interpretation of original meaning and intent.

    We do not know exactly what was in the original New Testament. What we have are surviving hand written copies from the Middle Ages, a thousand years later than the original Gospels. We can assume these copies are fairly accurate representations of the original Greek Gospels, but there have almost certainly been changes and additions over the centuries

    Jesus did not found Christianity, Paul did.

    The Old Testament, Tanakh, is Jewish scripture. Torah is Jewish law. Paul's ministry made explicitly clear that gentiles are not necessarily required to conform to the Jewish law.

    Church patristic fathers and Christian theologians of late antiquity generally thought it was preposterous and stupid to read Genesis and the rest of Torah literally. They considered correct biblical reading to utilize allegory and metaphor.

    Revelations was a first century composition which referenced the Roman Empire, written for people of that era. It was not forecasting a future world government led by China or European Union.

    I am pretty sure Jesus never said anything explicitly about abortion or gays.


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    apparently not this one, given how many false things he posted.......

    Christianity is a religion composed of those who profess their faith in Jesus Christ as the human incarnation of God......no one restricts that to "evangelical protestants".....

    the authors of the gospels were the persons they are attributed to, despite the denials of atheists....

    we have multiple copies of the early writings, which by their consistency provide us with more accurate knowledge of the original that we have ever known before........we have a better source of knowledge regarding the original text of the Bible than we have of the works of Aristotle or Socrates.......

    Paul did not found Christianity.......Christianity is a body of believers dating back to the incarnation, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.....a body of believers that included Paul, the apostles and thousands of people who heard Jesus speak and experienced the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.....

    Christians follow the Mosaic Law, otherwise referred to as the Ten Commandments, but as Christ stated salvation is a gift from God, not earned by obedience to the law.......

    Church patristic fathers, Christian theologians of both early and late antiquity, and pretty much all of modern Christianity agree that the OT and the NT include passages of allegory and metaphor, poetry, epistle, narrative and that a study of genre is essential to understanding of the Bible.....

    except for a handful of millenialists, all Christianity believes Revelation is a depiction of the Roman era and is not a map of the end times.....

    since Jesus is in truth the God of both the New and the Old Testaments, it is ridiculous to pretend he had nothing to say about killing children or sexual relations between men......

    the other 98 cents......
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    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    I think you can break it down into 2 parts.
    1. The Philosophy.
    2. The Magic Stuff.

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    Like:
    1. Anybody really want to 'turn your cheek' on 9/11/2001?
    2. Walking on Water ... mmmm, hard to believe that.

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    Now, Religious Quacks like PMP will try to explain it all away. They'll use some religious Word Salad and at the end will claim 'God is Great' and it's ALL TRUE.

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    People said "Jesus is coming back". Then, after like 50 years, they had to come up with another Storyline.
    "Jesus died for your Sins" was the best they could come up with. Yes. Lame. But better than nothing.

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    'Christianity' is a 'Slave Religion'. Used so people could survive the Roman Occupation.

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    Jack hates God.


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    So perfect in keeping people docile and servile, the Kings of Europe used it for a thousand years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    Jack hates God.

    jack is an idiot and not worth reading.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    Jack hates God.

    Doesn't really have anything to do with 'God'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    jack is an idiot and not worth reading.......
    Jack has an opinion. All Cultures around the world had their 'Gods' and 'Storylines'. It's an interesting aspect of Ancient People and their Belief System.

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    I just practice Freedom of Religion and Freedom From Religion!

    I never question anyone's faith or lack of it.

    It's pointless to take issues with anyone on these subjects because it is their American Right to believe whatever they want regarding Religion.

    I have atheist, and christian friends, relatives, associates, and neighbors- and we are all friends with each other and we want it to stay that way, so we never really discuss religion much around each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I just practice Freedom of Religion and Freedom From Religion!

    I never question anyone's faith or lack of it.

    It's pointless to take issues with anyone on these subjects because it is their American Right to believe whatever they want regarding Religion.

    I have atheist, and christian friends, relatives, associates, and neighbors- and we are all friends with each other, so we never really discuss religion much around each other.
    You could say the same thing about Politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    You could say the same thing about Politics.
    Yes, some of us have had to learn this the hard way!

    But, yes! Good comment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Yes, some of us have had to learn this the hard way!

    But, yes! Good comment!
    It's a Discussion Board. We can air our differences here ... with out a fight ensuing.

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