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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Vaccines have been very successful against viruses. Antivirals are nearly useless. If you are putting your hope in treatment, we have already lost.
    The reason for the all out assault in drugs like Ivermectin is that Big Pharma has expensive new drugs that they believe in.

    Maybe they know something you dont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The reason for the all out assault in drugs like Ivermectin is that Big Pharma has expensive new drugs that they believe in.

    Maybe they know something you dont.
    If Ivermectin was a miracle drug, it would be easily proven. Large studies are needed to prove marginal improvements, but small studies can prove miracle improvements. A study of a hundred or so would be more than enough. And yet nowhere on earth has it been proven.

    Why would it be? What are the odds that a random drug would cure us of viruses when nothing has ever worked before? Why would Covid-19 be the first curable virus?

    The alt right has become like the guy in massive debt who buys lottery tickets because he thinks that is his only chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The reason for the all out assault in drugs like Ivermectin is that Big Pharma has expensive new drugs that they believe in.

    Maybe they know something you dont.
    There are over 7 billion people on earth, and you are claiming none of them can prove Ivermectin works because of a cover up?

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    According to VAERS Website: There Were 3,296 COVID Vaccine Deaths in US Since July 24 – Or an Average of 70 Deaths per Day
    By Jim Hoft
    Published September 13, 2021 at 7:15am

    There are now 14,701 reported deaths from the COVID vaccine in the United States, according to the latest numbers.

    There were 11,405 reported deaths from the COVID vaccine in the United States back on July 24th

    And this was up from 9,125 reported deaths from the COVID-19 vaccinations total from earlier in the month in July



    The number of deaths linked to the CDC-promoted vaccines this year has absolutely skyrocketed, according to the CDC’s own data.

    The VAERS database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following
    immunization with US-licensed vaccines. The CDC government website links to VAERS platform.

    In June, VAERS reported 6,985 deaths due to the COVID vaccines.

    Then it jumped to 11,405 in July.

    And now it is at 14,701 reported deaths.

    That is a jump of 3,296 since July 24th.

    This comes out to 70 average deaths per day due to the coronavirus vaccine in the last 47 days.
    This needs to stop!

    “The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of
    adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are
    accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.

    There were over 675,000 adverse reactions reported to the COVID vaccine listed this year.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...vaers-website/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    We simply will not get there with millions now believing that natural immunity - which doesn't last long enough - will get us there...
    And vaccines will? lol. You’ll be wearing a mask at your own wake after your shadow kills you.
    "Where the people fear the govt. you have tyranny. Where the govt. fears the people you have liberty."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Because natural immunity fades over time, and leaves behind a person more susceptible to Covid-19. It is important to vaccinate the most susceptible.
    Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine
    but vaccination remains vital
    Israelis who had an infection were more protected against the Delta coronavirus variant than those who had an already highly effective COVID-19 vaccine
    https://www.science.org/content/arti...-remains-vital

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine
    but vaccination remains vital
    Israelis who had an infection were more protected against the Delta coronavirus variant than those who had an already highly effective COVID-19 vaccine
    https://www.science.org/content/arti...-remains-vital
    They don’t believe the study out of Israel lol.

    And they bristle at the mere mention of moderating the Max Vax campaign even as the science points in that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Herd immunity is enough immunity that outbreaks cannot be sustained. If the virus is introduced, it can still spread for a little while, but not for long. Think of a fire on very wet wood. The fire will dry out the wood to burn it, but it will slow to put itself out also.

    If enough of the population has immunity as you claim, then there would be no one to give Covid-19 to the infirmed. For your theory to come true, most of the population must not have immunity.

    It is possible that we will not beat Covid-19, and every couple of months it will tear through our society killing 1% of the population. We may lose a decade of life expectancy to this. That will not be declared a victory, and should be fought at almost any cost.
    Lighten up, Alter lol.

    You’re likely wrong as usual. Here’s a more accurate analogy: imagine if the influenza virus popped up out of nowhere. It would ‘tear through’ society probably in a similar fashion to Covid. The difference is the degree of community immunity to the seasonal flu. People are generally young and healthy when first exposed, so over time the population will acquire a sufficient degree of natural immunity that subsequent infections are *much milder* than they would be if people were having their first exposure late in life.

    Then there are treatments that will only get better over time. And in fact, are under rated even now. But it’s all vax, vax, vax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    You’re likely wrong as usual. Here’s a more accurate analogy: imagine if the influenza virus popped up out of nowhere. It would ‘tear through’ society probably in a similar fashion to Covid. The difference is the degree of community immunity to the seasonal flu. People are generally young and healthy when first exposed, so over time the population will acquire a sufficient degree of natural immunity that subsequent infections are *much milder* than they would be if people were having their first exposure late in life.

    Then there are treatments that will only get better over time. And in fact, are under rated even now. But it’s all vax, vax, vax.
    I could easily imagine a influenza outbreak that killed 20% of the population of the world, and could only be stopped by vaccination. Treatment of symptoms of a virus outbreak will get better, but there is no evidence that viruses themselves can be effectively treated. It has been several hundred years of attempts, so I doubt that will change in the next month.

    No one has been able to explain how a deworming drug would do anything to a virus. And hoping that natural immunity will make us all healthier might happen, but it is looking more and more doubtful.

    I guess we are just going to have to work hard. I know the concept is alien to you, but your ancestors did it, so can you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Exactly how is he "fucking delusional?"
    Exactly what is president potato head doing to be "on the right track to fixing the Trumpys Covid mess"? You jackasses were the original "anti-vaxxers". If Trump would have mandated vaccinations you would have crucified him(for the umpteenth time)and tried to impeach his corpse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The variants keep reusing the same limited number of mutations, which gives us hope that Covid-19 has limited number of useable mutations easily available to it. Unlike the simple and very variable spike on influenza's virus, Covid-19 has a complex, a limitedly variable spike. This all gives us hope.

    Wether we succeed or not, we should try. Failing means that we will lose close to a decade of life expectancy. It will also erode our society, pushing us towards collapse.
    Democrats are pushing us toward collapse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    More likely it will be treatments, like you get it and we know what drugs and what not to give you to make it go away. The big problem is the Big Pharma has captured the entire industry and the government and the Mind Molders and the so-called experts at the Failed Universities and at the Failed Scientific Journals , and they insist that the treatments must be new very expensive drugs so that they can make a lot of money and not cheap drugs in the cabinet already.


    Buckle Up...We R Fucked
    We most likely have cures for cancer but that would wipe out all the expensive treatments they can give you for a few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    We most likely have cures for cancer but that would wipe out all the expensive treatments they can give you for a few years
    Another crazy conspiracy theory from the alt right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Another crazy conspiracy theory from the alt right.
    Anyone that trust the medical field when it comes to profit is a fucking idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    Anyone that trust the medical field when it comes to profit is a fucking idiot
    The medical field exists not just in the USA, but around the world. It exists in the public, private, for profit, non-profit, and every other sector. Your conspiracy requires all those people, in all those sectors, all over the world, to all conspire together.

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