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    I don't see anything in that article about the length of natural immunity.

    Did I just miss it?

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    And of course - the author is a Fox contributor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    All three are diseases caused by viruses. It is possible to end the virus, and thus end the disease.
    False, just like the flu, it will always be with us

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    I don't see anything in that article about the length of natural immunity.

    Did I just miss it?
    Apparently?
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    “Policy makers and public health leaders, and the media voices that parrot them, are inexplicably sticking to their original hypothesis that natural immunity is fleeting, even as at least 15 studies show it lasts.” [from WSJ link]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Great, so lets get as many people vaccinated as possible. That is the part of the solution we can control.
    Why would you require those with natural immunity to be vaccinated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The body only reacts to diseases that infect it. It does not see the virus from across the room, and react to it.
    What's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Apparently?
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    “Policy makers and public health leaders, and the media voices that parrot them, are inexplicably sticking to their original hypothesis that natural immunity is fleeting, even as at least 15 studies show it lasts.” [from WSJ link]
    How long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    False, just like the flu, it will always be with us
    I agree with that.

    Herd immunity, will probably be defined as only the infirm being severely afflicted but enough of the population will have gotten immunity either naturally or artificially that Covid will be reduced to another seasonal flu.

    That will probably be our ‘victory’.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I agree with that.

    Herd immunity, will probably be defined as only the infirm being severely afflicted but enough of the population will have gotten immunity either naturally or artificially that Covid will be reduced to another seasonal flu.

    That will probably be our ‘victory’.
    More likely it will be treatments, like you get it and we know what drugs and what not to give you to make it go away. The big problem is the Big Pharma has captured the entire industry and the government and the Mind Molders and the so-called experts at the Failed Universities and at the Failed Scientific Journals , and they insist that the treatments must be new very expensive drugs so that they can make a lot of money and not cheap drugs in the cabinet already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    How long?
    At least as long as the pandemic?

    How is it possible to know if it goes longer? And how do we know if there aren’t long term effects to the vax? If you want to go with that angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    Why would you require those with natural immunity to be vaccinated?
    Because natural immunity fades over time, and leaves behind a person more susceptible to Covid-19. It is important to vaccinate the most susceptible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    What's your point?
    The natural immunity equivalent of a "booster" is getting the disease a second time, with all the health hazards that includes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    False, just like the flu, it will always be with us
    The variants keep reusing the same limited number of mutations, which gives us hope that Covid-19 has limited number of useable mutations easily available to it. Unlike the simple and very variable spike on influenza's virus, Covid-19 has a complex, a limitedly variable spike. This all gives us hope.

    Wether we succeed or not, we should try. Failing means that we will lose close to a decade of life expectancy. It will also erode our society, pushing us towards collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I agree with that.

    Herd immunity, will probably be defined as only the infirm being severely afflicted but enough of the population will have gotten immunity either naturally or artificially that Covid will be reduced to another seasonal flu.

    That will probably be our ‘victory’.
    Herd immunity is enough immunity that outbreaks cannot be sustained. If the virus is introduced, it can still spread for a little while, but not for long. Think of a fire on very wet wood. The fire will dry out the wood to burn it, but it will slow to put itself out also.

    If enough of the population has immunity as you claim, then there would be no one to give Covid-19 to the infirmed. For your theory to come true, most of the population must not have immunity.

    It is possible that we will not beat Covid-19, and every couple of months it will tear through our society killing 1% of the population. We may lose a decade of life expectancy to this. That will not be declared a victory, and should be fought at almost any cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    More likely it will be treatments, like you get it and we know what drugs and what not to give you to make it go away. The big problem is the Big Pharma has captured the entire industry and the government and the Mind Molders and the so-called experts at the Failed Universities and at the Failed Scientific Journals , and they insist that the treatments must be new very expensive drugs so that they can make a lot of money and not cheap drugs in the cabinet already.
    Vaccines have been very successful against viruses. Antivirals are nearly useless. If you are putting your hope in treatment, we have already lost.

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