Question For The Vax And Mask Reluctant: "Why?"

[PoliTalker]

I wish you well, rocketliberty87.

... Unlike you, i am a human being- ...

This angry vindictive post has violated my PIP. Your name will be immediately added to my Permanent Ignore List. It was an easy decision. I only talk to people who can conduct a mutually respectful conversation. This is the only thing I will ever say to you.

I stand for respect and civil discourse. And you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.



Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

[rocketliberty87]

oh and to further highlight how much full of bullshit all leftists are- including the OP, here is the left being leftist- they demand all the sane American humans bend the knee and take whatever jab they tell you and however many - regardless your own personal health, conditions and will. But these same subhuman leftists place no such mandates on those in their cabinet nor their beloved ILLEGAL ALIENS. that is leftists are ANTI American - they hate America and freedom and personal responsibility. And they LOVE crime in all its forms - the leftists love illegal aliens far more than they do Americans
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...gal-immigrants

[rocketliberty87]

I wish you well, rocketliberty87.



This angry vindictive post has violated my PIP. Your name will be immediately added to my Permanent Ignore List. It was an easy decision. I only talk to people who can conduct a mutually respectful conversation. This is the only thing I will ever say to you.

I stand for respect and civil discourse. And you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.



Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

"I stand for respect and civil discourse. And you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything."

ROLLIN ON FLOOR LAUGHIN. leftists like yourself are anythin but civil and honest. You have shown how disengenous you are - you absolutely hate humanity and freedom and have no respect for your fellow man (though you allege to be human now).
Hell leftists such as yourself laud and praise your "new socialist man"- a utopian ANTI HUMAN being with no real human traits. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1186949

[rocketliberty87]

and unlike you op i stand for HUMANITY- not your leftist braindead npc cult. I am not a degenerate idiot unlike you OP. I believe in America, freedom and personal responsibility and integrity- you? You demand everyone else be forced to coddle and pay for your irresponsible reckless whims- call it whatever you want- use whatever euphemism you can come up with. it is textbook dictionary definition reckless irresponsible and dehumanizing. You also are trying to remove peoples moral agency and freedom- again further proving my point how inhuman you are!

[rocketliberty87]

To further highlight and HUMILIATE the OP and all leftists- ironically the moronic leftist @PollTalker ended saying "And you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything."

and here folks ->
Leftists are dumb enough to believe their vaccine was anywhere close to 100% effective
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/s...el-pfizer.html

leftists are too stupid evidently to read or think - and in fact all studies show how leftists only consume left wing media and especially corporate media. lol Everyone else- libertarians, republicans etc reads and consumes everything then processes it and then formulate our opinion and thoughts.

[rocketliberty87]

also thank you for proving how leftists are dictionary definition of bigots- again you are anti human and anti truth and anti personal responsibility

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

AHAHAHAHAHA
lol you are anythin but logical- it is pure emotional vitriol and filled w nothing but fallacies. see leftists must deny science in favor of blind dogma. leftists must use fallacies like arguments of identity- cause your immutable identity is all you got- you have 0 merits to stand on.
Unlike you, i am a human being- and i have a face, head, brain, and functioning cardiovascular system and immune system. And I am not dumb enough to deny biology, economics, math and statistics unlike you. It is statistically far more dangerous to dawdle in your leftist degeneracy than it is to be a human being. For us human beings, unlike leftists, living a normal life- enjoying the outdoors, sunshine, good food, drinks, HUGS from friends, families and neighbors- and people HUMAN facial expression etc are vital for a good life and healthy immune system. Hecht playin in soil and sand is fantastic for developing immune systems- but leftists are NOT human. you are ANTI human.

and also of note- see how you keep insisting "JUST TAKE THE POKE! DO IT! DONT THINK ABOUT IT! DO NOT QUESTION IT! WHY YA QUESTIONING IT BIGOT?"
there is no honesty on your part cause in fact you are not human- you are ANTI human. you disregard people humanity and what makes human being human. again- if this were ever about health- you subhuman leftists never would have destroyed all the businesses, and especially gyms and spas! You never would have forced healthy Americans to be locked imprisoned in their homes- and see the skyrocketing cases of obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc related deaths- oh and especially suicides. the deaths from suicides and especially the young- dwarf any such from your fear mongered Covid deaths.

Unlike leftists, i actually passed high school biology- and know that humans are resilient - our systems are resiliency based- meaning in order to grow, they must be constantly tested. I must go daily to the gym to workout and work the muscles and bones to the breaking point and move just past it in order to grow. same thing with cardio system, my immune system and so forth. you work hard, sweat, grab a cold one and some healthy food and rest then repeat. That is how humans grow. But leftists are not human- you reject humanity and especially freedom aka personal responsibility. you demand EVERYONE ELSE be forced to pay for your whimsical irresponsible decisions like your fat acceptance bullshit

FYI obesity and obesity related comorbidities make you only a couple DOZEN TO LIKE HUNDRED times more vulnerable to whatever covid and other diseases.... so funny thing is- if you are human, and have a sense of perspective and focus on living properly then you do not have to fuck around with unnecessary and INEFFECTIVE bullshit like your jabs.

Epic!

[PoliTalker]

Democrats stand for good policy and seeking to solve problems.

Republicans are mostly motivated by hatred.

Hatred and emotion are the only things keeping the Republican party viable at all.

If the votes of the angry and hateful of both sides were discarded (an academic consideration for argument sake only,) Democrats would be winning nearly every election because most of the Republican votes would be gone.

The best government would result from people analytically considering the logically most important issues, becoming as well informed as possible on them, and making a rational decision as to which candidates would best address those issues.

It is ironic that Republicans vote more on the basis of emotion, which causes a compromised government as a result, and then they turn around and disparage how bad they feel our government is.

It is also ironic that Republicans hold far more elective offices, when all the state governments and the federal government are added together, than Democrats, but Republicans complain more and more loudly that they are not happy with government.

Republicans have more power to change things, and complain the loudest that things need to change. It is very strange.

[gfm7175]

Why do you choose to ignore health care givers pleas to get vaccinated and take proper steps to avoid transmission?

Because I understand that a large number of them are literally promoting vaccinations under duress from the ABEM, ABP, ABFM, ABIM, and AMA. Don't believe me? You can view my links below, which are the ABEM, ABP, ABFM, ABIM, and AMA in their own words...

https://www.abem.org/public/news-eve...-to-the-public

http://elinks.abpeds.org/m/1/8528263...-567dd1a12b58#

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...de-english.pdf

It makes no sense.

Being a stupid non-thinking sheep, self-confined to the kiddie pool, is what makes no sense.

What you are doing defies logic.

You have no idea what logic even IS, being the stupid non-thinking sheep that you are.

What kind of American are you

I am a North American.

that you do not want to protect American health?

DEMONKKKRATS are the ones who are harming people, dude... not me.

How did you get to be against humanity

How am I "against humanity"?

and on the side of the enemy?

Who is "the enemy"?

Why do you refuse to listen to health care workers?

You don't get to speak for all health care workers. Not all health care workers are the same. Not all health care workers believe the same things.

They have given us their all. They have worked tirelessly for over a year. Long hours. They have missed their families and special occasions. They have missed birthdays and visits with relatives. They have missed sleep and recreation. They have missed the chance to simply relax. We all take that for granted.

Many times they have chosen to sleep and live elsewhere over concerns that they might infect their families. Some of them shower and change at work before even coming home. Some of them have to wear a mask in their own home to avoid infecting vulnerable relatives.

They are doing their very best. Every day they strive to help others. They are fighting this disease with everything they have. It is arduous to have to suit up in PPE to perform their jobs. They have to time their biorhythms so they can get through the times they are suited up without drinking water or going to the bathroom. They are dealing with the crushing demands of their jobs out of sheer dedication to purpose and to helping others because they know if they don't do it our national effort is reduced by that much.

... yet, after all the hard work and long hours that those health care workers have put in during the last couple of years, YOU wish to illegally and unconstitutionally remove many of them from their jobs solely due to their wish to not receive a COVID jab. You don't actually give a fuck about the hard work that they've done. You would immediately kick them to the curbside and curb-stomp them without any hesitation simply because they don't wish to get jabbed. FUCK YOU. AWAY FROM ME, SATAN!

They know if they don't do their job that someone will die.

How can they do their job when they are being tossed to the curb solely because they refuse to receive a COVID jab? FUCK YOUR SATANIC WAYS!

They don't even know who, but just the knowledge that it is someone is depending on them is enough; because they can do something about that.

They have been fighting this pandemic on the front lines since March last year. Many have burned out. Only the strongest remain. Their dedication is not to be taken for granted. They are serving America at great personal risk. Many care givers have died from corona.

... yet, after all the hard work and long hours that those health care workers have put in during the last couple of years, YOU wish to illegally and unconstitutionally remove many of them from their jobs solely due to their wish to not receive a COVID jab. You don't actually give a fuck about the hard work that they've done. You would immediately kick them to the curbside and curb-stomp them without any hesitation simply because they don't wish to get jabbed. FUCK YOU. AWAY FROM ME, SATAN!

We all thought the vaccines were the beginning of the end.

We were lied to, dumbass.

** wear a mask for two weeks
** wear a mask for two more weeks
** wear a mask until a vaccine is available
** keep wearing a mask
** vaccinate if you wish
** vaccinate NOW, OR ELSE!

** This ends after two weeks
** This ends after two more weeks
** This ends after a vaccine is available
** This ends after people wanting vaccination are vaccinated
** This ends after 60% get vaccinated
** This ends after 70% get vaccinated
** This ends after 90% get vaccinated
** This NEVER ENDS, muahahahahahaha

We turned the corner. We started to get it under control. Many states opened up too soon. We never got the disease completely under control.

We could have been in far better shape had it not been for greed over money and jobs.

Thank you for exposing yourself as a Marxist. You can shove your Satanic commie bullshit up your ass.

Money and jobs are absolutely important; but lives are absolutely MORE important. We should not have let up. It turned out to be a huge mistake to relax the protocols too soon.

That was when the Delta variant hit hard. Right when we were not well positioned to deal with it. Delta hit us hard. The reason is because too many Americans are not taking the protocols seriously. They are not masking, not distancing, not even getting vaccinated.

This is the one reason the pandemic is so bad in the USA right now.

The only pandemic in the USA right now is Liberalism.

Nearly all the people in the ICUs and dying are not vaccinated. What a waste.

LIES, LIES, and DAMNED LIES.

Health care workers are so tired of it.

Yes, they are so tired of tyrannical Satanic Marxist communist fucks like you forcing them to decide between their job and a jab.

They have no problem helping people;

... IF you don't force them to decide between their job and a jab, you Marxist communist Satanic FUCK!

but it is extremely difficult to know that the people who are hit the hardest, who made the decision to not get vaccinated, brought this on themselves.

You can't force people to act how you wish for them to act. They have free will, dumbass... Your desire to control everything and everybody else around you is a reaction to the intense fear that dwells within you.

Health care workers tell heart-breaking stories of people gasping for breath in ICUs saying NOW they wish they had gotten the vaccine. They know heartbreak every day seeing people die needlessly.

Some of them do... Others tell heart-breaking stories of people dying before their very eyes moments after receiving the COVID jab... Others tell heart-breaking stories of young otherwise healthy teens who suffered heart attacks due to the COVID jab...

And to leave work and see people in public protesting against masks and vaccines

People are not protesting masks and vaccines... They are protesting mask and vaccine MANDATES, you dishonest DEMON.

is a slap in the face of everything health care workers know and see

You don't speak for all health care workers, DEMON.

Propaganda is killing people and debilitating our nation.

Finally you got something right. LIBERAL propaganda is debilitating our nation.

Anti-vax and anti-mask protestors are out three pretending it is all a joke but health care workers know better. [B]They see the death. They pull the sheets up over the heads of anti-vax people who lost their lives for a lie. They wheel the bodies out, and when they come back down the hall there are more patients to replace them.

You don't speak for all health care workers, DEMON.

More patients saying now they wish they had gotten the vaccine.

... and other patients, IF they are still alive to tell the tale, are saying that they wish they had NOT gotten the vaccine... You purposely leave THAT truth out of the discussion, DEMON.

And still, you anti-vax people refuse to get vaccinated.

That's my right, DEMON.

How do you ignore all of this?

I'm not ignoring anything... YOU are, DEMON.

How do you pretend it's not happening?

It is LIBERALS who rely upon pretending not to know things, DEMON.

How do you pretend there is no pandemic when clearly there is.

The only pandemic occurring in the States of America ATM is LIBERALISM, DEMON.

I just don't get it.

Then try shutting your mouth for a change and opening your ears to people who know better than you and can educate you.

Where is your heart?

In my chest cavity.

Where is your sense of duty to your country?

On display every single day that I wake up and do the LORD's will. Where is YOURS, DEMON?

Where is your compassion?

Where is YOURS, DEMON?

What makes you think you are any different than the rest of us, that you will survive this when so many others who felt just like you lost their lives? It makes no sense at all.

I take care of myself and my immune system. The LORD still has work for me to do here on Earth.

A virus doesn't care about politics. A virus is going to go anywhere it is allowed to go.

You act as if you can stop it...

All we have to do is cut off the avenues for it to travel.

Good luck with that.

Stop spending time with others in close proximity wherever possible.

No. Stop trying to ban me from fellowshipping with others, DEMON! That is directly opposed to God's will, DEMON!

Wear a mask when you must be near others indoors or in crowds.

Masks do not stop viruses. They do not work for that purpose. You are living your life in fear, DEMON.

And for the love of humanity, get vaccinated.

NO. MY BODY MY CHOICE, DEMON!

It is time. You've held out this long and you've lucked out if you're still OK. Maybe you've already gotten COVID and you didn't know it. Maybe you got it and did know it and you got better. Maybe you've already spread it to others and didn't even know it, or worse, didn't care.

Your fear is showing, DEMON.

Somebody is probably dead because of you.

I have killed no-one, DEMON.

We've all seen the stories of heartbreak and loss. We've all seen the stories of those who didn't get vaccinated, lost a husband or wife, parents, or even children, and THEN they changed their mind. They decided they will get the vaccine after tragedy struck them.

You are conveniently leaving out the stories of heartbreak and loss due to people who have DIED FROM THE JAB... people who have suffered debilitating side effects FROM THE JAB... More of your "half-truths", eh DEMON??

That might be you if you do not get vaccinated.

Fear mongering. I do not live my life in fear, DEMON.

It is time.

Just do it.

NO. MY BODY MY CHOICE, DEMON!

And get with the rest of us in fighting this pandemic. If we all do our part together we can totally get it under control and get our regular lives back. But as long as people like you hold out and keep spreading the disease, that will never happen. You need to believe in America. It is time to unite. Believe that when we are united against a common enemy, we can prevail. We do not have to accept defeat by a dumb virus. We are humans. We have brains. All we have to do is used them properly.

Stop listening to your friends.

No. I have good friends.

Stop listening to propaganda.

You should try your own advice for a change.

Think for yourself.

I AM... YOU are trying to tell me NOT to, DEMON!

Do the right thing.

I am. I am calling out your lies, DEMON... I am educating others, DEMON...

Get vaccinated.

"Think for yourself."
"GET VACCINATED, DAMNIT!!!!"

Do you not hear yourself, DEMON??

I don't really care why you held out for so long. Sure. I am curious. But it doesn't matter. The important thing is that EVERYONE joins together to fight our common enemy. Don't worry about the politics. That is not important. This is a matter of life and death.

It is time to give it up and get vaccinated.

It is the single most patriotic thing you can do right now.

Listen to what every hospital in America is telling you.

You don't speak for every hospital in America, DEMON.

If you have any questions at all about getting vaccinated, ASK YOUR DOCTOR.

... so that they can tell me to "get vaccinated", in many cases only because they are under duress to tell people to do so?

You wouldn't ask a doctor how to build a house. If you're a carpenter, do not listen to another carpenter tell you how to protect your health and the health of your family and loved ones. If you got messed up in a car wreck you are not going to get stitched up by a carpenter. You are going to trust your life to your doctor.

This is no different. Getting vaccinated is an important health care concern. The only person you should listen to on important health care concern is a doctor. (And don't make the mistake of shopping around until you get one to tell you what you want to believe. That is pointless.) Just ask your regular doctor. See what he/she says.

I bet they won't agree with Tucker Carlson. (who has no medical degree) Listen to the person whose job it is to protect your health.

BEGONE FROM ME, DEMON!

[Nordberg]

What a page of thunderous stupidity.

[OldMercsRule]

The so called "vaccines' are a failure. You can catch Covid-19 and spread it, you can be hospitalized and die from either the "vaccine" or Covid-19 that it was supposed to protect you from.

PoliTalker is obviously not informed, (by actual facts), nor does he use the logic he claims to use.

https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov.

The OpenVAERS Project allows browsing and searching of the reports without the need to compose an advanced search (more advanced searches can be done at medalerts.org or vaers.hhs.gov).

1,492,463
REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS

14,506 COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths / 23,393 Total Reported Deaths

58,440 Total COVID Vaccine Reported Hospitalizations/136,256 Total Reported Hospitalizations

675,591 COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports

Through September 03, 2021

Safe eh? yasureyabetcha...

Why are the most heavily "vaccinated" places in the world experiencing the highest and most massive levels of infection post "vaccine"?

If you have any critical thinking skills, the facts are telling you these "vaccines" are a BIG FAT FAIL

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...cinated-people

[OldMercsRule]

What a page of thunderous stupidity.

Yup... you are thunderously stupid alrighty... burp...

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Why would I take a shot if it doesn't make me immune to covid? It's obviously not a vaccine. Idiots like you just want me to suffer the side effects and good thing I am not as stupid as you obviously.



love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist
World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

[katzgar]

Why would I take a shot if it doesn't make me immune to covid? It's obviously not a vaccine. Idiots like you just want me to suffer the side effects and good thing I am not as stupid as you obviously.



love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist
World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

Being clueless is your thing

[katzgar]

The so called "vaccines' are a failure. You can catch Covid-19 and spread it, you can be hospitalized and die from either the "vaccine" or Covid-19 that it was supposed to protect you from.

PoliTalker is obviously not informed, (by actual facts), nor does he use the logic he claims to use.

https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov.

The OpenVAERS Project allows browsing and searching of the reports without the need to compose an advanced search (more advanced searches can be done at medalerts.org or vaers.hhs.gov).

1,492,463
REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS

14,506 COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths / 23,393 Total Reported Deaths

58,440 Total COVID Vaccine Reported Hospitalizations/136,256 Total Reported Hospitalizations

675,591 COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports

Through September 03, 2021

Safe eh? yasureyabetcha...

Why are the most heavily "vaccinated" places in the world experiencing the highest and most massive levels of infection post "vaccine"?

If you have any critical thinking skills, the facts are telling you these "vaccines" are a BIG FAT FAIL

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...cinated-people

You are literally the dumbest moron on the planet