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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello evince,



    They were smart enough to not include things that were not needed, such as declaring what type of economic system we would use. This leaves it up to We The People to decide, gives us all options.

    Like much of the world, the USA has determined that a hybrid Capitalist / Socialist system is best. Socialism for the things people need and Capitalism for the things people want. Basic logic.


    Yes


    The power of a better idea

    Constantly keeping the money changing hands


    IF

    it’s properly fettered by decent and smart people



    Let’s be the founders dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    And it’s merely a tool for governing


    Incentives to certain industries is a great tool


    So is a hammer


    But evil people can still use it as a murder weapon


    Democracy is not a death pact


    But to opperate it efficiently you have to have a clear purpose and a decent heart
    6 corporate bailouts in 35 years as the middle class is depleted proves there is no government of and for the people. Crony capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    6 corporate bailouts in 35 years as the middle class is depleted proves there is no government of and for the people. Crony capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy.
    It’s because the republicans keep DEREGULATING INDUSTRIES


    PROPER FETTERING


    that is just another word for regulation and oversight


    Democratic members keep regulating and upping corporate policing



    Then the republicans get in power and DEREGULATE EVERY THING THEY CAN


    the history clearly shows that set of facts

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    ENRON


    A CLEAR CASE OF REPUBLICAN DEREGULATION


    2008 crash


    A CLEAR CASE OF REPUBLICAN DEREGUATION



    shifting regulations to fit the current conditions and desired national outcome is a GREAT tool



    Deregulation for deregulation’s sake is a disaster


    The republicans keep proving that


    Time we learn that lesson

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    https://www.investopedia.com/article...al-bailout.asp



    The Great Depression
    The Savings and Loan Crisis
    The conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
    The collapse of Bear Stearns
    The rescue of American International Group (AIG)
    The COVID-19 pandemic

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    The conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac


    Done right as our economy was crashing in 2008


    Guess who and what made it nessesary?

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Stearns


    B and S bailout


    Done as a result of the 2008 crash


    Guess who caused that one?


    There is a link in my signature which has a release by the security and exchange head under Bush (Cox) admitting deregulation caused the crash

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    Hello goat,

    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    6 corporate bailouts in 35 years as the middle class is depleted proves there is no government of and for the people. Crony capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy.
    That just means we have issues we have to deal with.

    Not that we abandon the American Dream.

    This is a DIY country.

    If something is not working for us, we have the power to fix it within the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello goat,



    That just means we have issues we have to deal with.

    Not that we abandon the American Dream.

    This is a DIY country.

    If something is not working for us, we have the power to fix it within the system.



    If we can keep it



    I believe we still have that power


    And we will



    As long as this Republican Party is NEVER allowed the power to deregulate anything


    It’s a party that has outlived its decency and needs to die

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    ENRON


    A CLEAR CASE OF REPUBLICAN DEREGULATION


    2008 crash


    A CLEAR CASE OF REPUBLICAN DEREGUATION



    shifting regulations to fit the current conditions and desired national outcome is a GREAT tool



    Deregulation for deregulation’s sake is a disaster


    The republicans keep proving that


    Time we learn that lesson
    A big problem is that when Democrats want to hold corporate feet to the fire, Republicans always take the side of the corporations. That's why we didn't get a better healthcare law. Democrats had to fight big pharma, big insurance AND REPUBLICANS, all at the same time. It's a wonder they pulled it off. It would have been better, but Republicans tried to take advantage when Ted Kennedy died, so we had to go with what we had. Sad. It should have been better. It could have been if Republicans had at least tried. But no, they were bent on seeing Democrats fail.

    SO SHALLOW WERE THEY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Kinda funny. Since the trump virus crashed the market, The Fed has been buying billions in corporate bonds during a time when corporations are sitting on record amounts of cash.

    Can't have the market getting upset.

    I don't hear much about Socialism from corporations lately
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    The 1987 Treasury securities market bailout
    The 1989 S&L bailout
    The 2000 dotcom bailout
    The 2008 Wall Street Bailout
    The 2020 zombie corporations bailout
    The upcoming systemic collapse bailout

    Corporate socialism at work.
    All true
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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