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    IT AIN'T GOOD.....




    What the world is saying about America's withdrawal from Afghanistan


    As harrowing pictures of Afghans clinging to US cargo jets in a desperate bid to escape the Taliban circulate, everyone in Washington is asking a version of the same questions: Did President Joe Biden misread intelligence about the imminent collapse of the Afghan government and armed forces? Did US spy agencies fail to pick up the Taliban surge, which led to the collapse of numerous provincial strongholds and Kabul within days? Or did the President simply ignore the evidence in his zeal to end a military misadventure and reap a political win?

    The imagery from Afghanistan is deeply damaging to Biden politically and paints a disastrous picture of a nation that has long seen itself as a global leader and guardian of democracy, human rights and humanitarianism. Biden did admit in an address to the nation that the Taliban triumph had unfolded more quickly than he had expected, after repeatedly dismissing the idea that the fundamentalist militia could quickly capture Afghanistan.

    As he seeks to stabilize his reeling administration, Biden tried to reframe the issue into a question of whether the US should leave its longest war or keep fighting -- conveniently ignoring the question at hand: Did the White House botch its pullout in a way that caused chaos -- and could expose thousands of Afghans linked to US forces to a vicious backlash?


    Instead, Biden placed blame almost everywhere else. He implicitly rebuked previous presidents for allowing the 20-year war to go on so long. He lambasted Afghan leaders and their soldiers for not putting up a fight after years of US funds and training (an easy and rather callous point to make from the safety of the East Room's ornate, gold-curtained splendor.)



    ~ "What is the reason and cause of the speedy advancing of the Taliban? This cannot have happened out of nowhere. They must have had some orchestrated help from somewhere. Who is behind all this and why could this not be stopped? It is like the spreading of the plague or Covid-19, covering most of the country in no time," said Christine in Munich. "What has happened to push this that no one seemed to have noticed?"


    Karen in Denmark echoed the call made by many to evacuate Afghans who once helped American forces -- and who now risk retribution from the Taliban: "Afghans must learn to take responsibility for their own country and stop blaming the US and allies for their problems. But please US and allies get the persons who worked for you out of the country, if they wish to. Send as many planes as needed. No excuse to leave them behind!!"


    Meanwhile, Kari in Finland objected to comparisons between the US evacuation from Afghanistan and the fall of Saigon. "There has been NO 'blitzkrieg' in Afghanistan. The 'army' and 'security' units have not offered resistance at all. Krieg means war — there is no krieg against Taliban. They just drive from city to city waving their flags and guns. There has been no serious fighting! ... Nothing like Saigon."



    Alex lamented Washington's lost credibility as a champion of democracy. "It is a sad day for the USA. After years and years of lies to their own people and wrapping them selves in the flags and the patriotic jargon which was nothing short of outright lies. Now the foreign diplomacy of the US is in tatters."



    And it all boils down to America's poor timing for Sue, who wrote: "The original purpose -- to take care of those who were responsible for the attack on this nation in September 2001 -- ended with the elimination of the one who ordered the hit: Osama Ben Laden. That is when troop withdrawals should have begun."



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    'Another historic Washington experiment'


    "With horror, the world is watching the result of another historic Washington experiment," Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova posted Sunday on Facebook as the Taliban marched on the Afghan capital. To drive her point home, Zakharova posted an excerpt of a news conference given by US President Joe Biden just over a month ago, when he was asked if a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan was inevitable.

    "No, it is not," Biden replied.

    "Judge for yourself," Zakharova wrote.

    Russia has already announced that it has working contacts with the Taliban, whom it described as restoring "public order." Read more.

    'A clearer demonstration of US impotence than the Vietnam War'

    Chinese state media, meanwhile, reported on America's "humiliation" in Afghanistan with relish, using scenes of the chaotic US evacuation and swift resurgence of the Taliban as proof of the superiority of China's hands-off approach to other countries' internal affairs.
    "The drastic change in Afghanistan's situation is undoubtedly a heavy blow to the US. It declared the complete failure of US intent to reshape Afghanistan," the state-run tabloid Global Times said in an editorial published late on Sunday night. "This defeat of the US is a clearer demonstration of US impotence than the Vietnam War — the US is indeed like a 'paper tiger.'"




    https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/world...ntl/index.html




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    What the world is saying about America's (Biden's) withdrawal from Afghanistan

    You surely can't have forgotten what the world said about El Trumpo ? Maybe it suited you not to listen.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Chinese state media, meanwhile, reported on America's "humiliation" in Afghanistan with relish, using scenes of the chaotic US evacuation and swift resurgence of the Taliban as proof of the superiority of China's hands-off approach to other countries' internal affairs.
    "The drastic change in Afghanistan's situation is undoubtedly a heavy blow to the US. It declared the complete failure of US intent to reshape Afghanistan," the state-run tabloid Global Times said in an editorial published late on Sunday night. "This defeat of the US is a clearer demonstration of US impotence than the Vietnam War — the US is indeed like a 'paper tiger.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    What the world is saying about America's (Biden's) withdrawal from Afghanistan

    You surely can't have forgotten what the world said about El Trumpo ? Maybe it suited you not to listen.
    trumps not president now unless you didn't notice dumb ass and he hast been for 8 months and trump didnt withdraw biden did only thing world leaders are saying about trump is he wouldn't of been that fucking stupid .

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    Hey GROPE MASTER!

    ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP?

    From what I have heard, Most people around the world thinks he is a moron- AND EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR HIM ARE TOO!

    And then we'll ask them about what they think about Biden!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    What the world is saying about America's (Biden's) withdrawal from Afghanistan

    You surely can't have forgotten what the world said about El Trumpo ? Maybe it suited you not to listen.
    OUR ALLIES SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PAID UP ,AND OUR ENEMIES SHUT UP AND SAT THE FUCK DOWN, BECAUSE THEY FEARED TRUNP....NO ONE FEARS PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Hey GROPE MASTER!

    ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP?

    From what I have heard, Most people around the world thinks he is a moron- AND EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR HIM ARE TOO!

    And then we'll ask them about what they think about Biden!
    ALLIES PAID THE FUCK UP WHEN HE TOLD THEM TOO, AND OUR ENEMIES SHUT THE FUCK UP.


    THEY FEARED TRUMP; NO ONE FEARS PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS WILL WEAR THE AFGHAN DEBACLE LIKE AN ALBATROSS TO HIS GRAVE....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    OUR ALLIES SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PAID UP ,AND OUR ENEMIES SHUT UP AND SAT THE FUCK DOWN, BECAUSE THEY FEARED TRUNP....NO ONE FEARS PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS....
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    ALLIES PAID THE FUCK UP WHEN HE TOLD THEM TOO, AND OUR ENEMIES SHUT THE FUCK UP.


    THEY FEARED TRUMP; NO ONE FEARS PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS.
    You just keep on telling yourself that clown. Nobody cares what you think about anymore because you are helplessly being controlled and manipulated mentally by the Right Wing Fake News websites that are feeding you lies and you do not have the ability mentally anymore to know Truth From Fiction, right from wrong, or real from fake!

    So you are lost in a lost world and beyond help!

    Please do not even try to have a conversation with me here and don't expect any further comments from me regarding your comments.

    It's like dealing with a retarded person or something because you are too far gone!

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    That topic post is hysterical, we got "Karen," "Kari," "Alex" and some Russian person as a microcism of "the world," guess if we add in my barber, close friend, wife, and next door neighbor all with opposing opinions "the world's" view would tilt in the other direction

    No matter how Big, Bold, or CAPITALIZED, "Grok" makes it, he still gets it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    IT AIN'T GOOD.....




    What the world is saying about America's withdrawal from Afghanistan


    As harrowing pictures of Afghans clinging to US cargo jets in a desperate bid to escape the Taliban circulate, everyone in Washington is asking a version of the same questions: Did President Joe Biden misread intelligence about the imminent collapse of the Afghan government and armed forces? Did US spy agencies fail to pick up the Taliban surge, which led to the collapse of numerous provincial strongholds and Kabul within days? Or did the President simply ignore the evidence in his zeal to end a military misadventure and reap a political win?

    The imagery from Afghanistan is deeply damaging to Biden politically and paints a disastrous picture of a nation that has long seen itself as a global leader and guardian of democracy, human rights and humanitarianism. Biden did admit in an address to the nation that the Taliban triumph had unfolded more quickly than he had expected, after repeatedly dismissing the idea that the fundamentalist militia could quickly capture Afghanistan.

    As he seeks to stabilize his reeling administration, Biden tried to reframe the issue into a question of whether the US should leave its longest war or keep fighting -- conveniently ignoring the question at hand: Did the White House botch its pullout in a way that caused chaos -- and could expose thousands of Afghans linked to US forces to a vicious backlash?


    Instead, Biden placed blame almost everywhere else. He implicitly rebuked previous presidents for allowing the 20-year war to go on so long. He lambasted Afghan leaders and their soldiers for not putting up a fight after years of US funds and training (an easy and rather callous point to make from the safety of the East Room's ornate, gold-curtained splendor.)



    [SIZE=5][I][B]~ "What is the reason and cause of the speedy advancing of the Taliban? This cannot have happened out of nowhere. They must have had some orchestrated help from somewhere. Who is behind all this and why could this not be stopped? It is like the spreading of the plague or Covid-19, covering most of the country in no time," said Christine in Munich. "What has happened to push this that no one seemed to have noticed?" (who gives a shit what Christine in Munich says?)


    Karen in Denmark echoed the call made by many to evacuate Afghans who once helped American forces -- and who now risk retribution from the Taliban: "Afghans must learn to take responsibility for their own country and stop blaming the US and allies for their problems. But please US and allies get the persons who worked for you out of the country, if they wish to. Send as many planes as needed. No excuse to leave them behind!!" (who gives a shit what Karen says?)


    Meanwhile, Kari in Finland objected to comparisons between the US evacuation from Afghanistan and the fall of Saigon. "There has been NO 'blitzkrieg' in Afghanistan. The 'army' and 'security' units have not offered resistance at all. Krieg means war — there is no krieg against Taliban. They just drive from city to city waving their flags and guns. There has been no serious fighting! ... Nothing like Saigon."(he is right, to a certain extent. the afghanis just did not give a shit at all)



    Alex lamented Washington's lost credibility as a champion of democracy. "It is a sad day for the USA. After years and years of lies to their own people and wrapping them selves in the flags and the patriotic jargon which was nothing short of outright lies. Now the foreign diplomacy of the US is in tatters." (who gives a shit what Alex says?)



    And it all boils down to America's poor timing for Sue, who wrote: "The original purpose -- to take care of those who were responsible for the attack on this nation in September 2001 -- ended with the elimination of the one who ordered the hit: Osama Ben Laden. That is when troop withdrawals should have begun." (who the hell cares what Sue says, you moron?")



    Schadenfreude
    'Another historic Washington experiment'
    (who the hell is Schadenfreude, stupid fuck? who cares?)


    why do you post such senseless shit, boy?

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    Lol, they didn't like Trump a neck of a lot, either.

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    PRES.MORON the BALL-LESS HAS BEEN SEEN FOR WHAT HE IS BY THE WORLD....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Mostly, what the world is saying is: "Thank the gods that the moron Trump is gone. We don't agree with all the decisions being made (never will), but at least they are being made by a human, rather than that piece of shit who was stinking up the planet for the last four years."

    I would have thought you all realized that.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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