Report; US ISIS-K strike may have killed a family of 9.

[Damocles]

That's what happens when you promise a "swift response" to an attack on US forces, then find you can't really deliver so you take the Taliban's word on who might be ISIS...

It's likely that the guy was somebody helping someone escape the country... I mean Taliban told them to bomb him for some reason...

[moon]

US offers unspecified payments to Afghan families of botched drone attack victims

The Pentagon has offered unspecified condolence payments to the family of 10 civilians who were killed in a botched US drone attack in Afghanistan in August in the final days before American troops withdrew from the country.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/...victims-682188

Payment ? If I were a friend or relative of the victims I'd prefer to have the perpetrators taken out and shot.

[moon]

No misconduct in deadly US drone attack in Kabul: Pentagon review



A United States drone attack that killed 10 civilians, including seven children, in the Afghan capital Kabul in August did not violate the laws of war, an internal Pentagon review has concluded.

Speaking to reporters at the Pentagon on Wednesday, US Air Force Lieutenant General Sami Said said “execution errors”, including “confirmation bias” and “communication breakdowns”, contributed to the deadly attack.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...entagon-review

Smug fuckers. What goes around comes around.

[moon]

U.S. Absolves Drone Killers and Persecutes Whistleblowers
A Pentagon report treats the killing of an Afghan family as an innocent mistake — and upholds a U.S. tradition of excusing war crimes.






https://theintercept.com/2021/11/04/...t%20Newsletter

[moon]

Drone strike that killed children to go unpunished – Pentagon



No members of the US military involved in the Kabul drone strike that killed 10 civilians including 7 children during the retreat from Afghanistan will be penalized in any way, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin reportedly decided.

https://www.rt.com/usa/543091-pentag...ne-punishment/

They really think so.

[moon]

China calls for ‘reckoning’ over US atrocity in Afghanistan



The US drone strike that killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including seven children, is an atrocity, the Chinese Foreign Ministry has said, calling for the international community to hold the United States accountable for war crimes.

https://www.rt.com/news/543208-china...agon-impunity/


Kabul drone attack: US advocates decry ‘impunity, secrecy’

Activists call for more oversight after Pentagon decides against punishing army officials for bombing that killed 10.



Washington, DC – The United States is sending a “dangerous and misleading message” by failing to hold any US military personnel responsible for a Kabul drone attack that killed 10 civilians, including seven children, human rights advocates have said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...punity-secrecy

If the United States had such a thing as a reputation for defending human rights it would be irreparably damaged.

[McRocket]

Wow!

Sure is fortunate we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to wipe out ISIS/terrorism.

Oh...wait...

[moon]

Wow!

Sure is fortunate we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to wipe out ISIS/terrorism.

Oh...wait...

You mean this Iraq ?








What a pity that you can't photograph the assholes operating US drone strikes on children.

[McRocket]

You mean this Iraq ?








What a pity that you can't photograph the assholes operating US drone strikes on children.

Ummm...you do realize that my point was that trying to eradicate terrorism is ridiculous?

Right?

[moon]

Ummm...you do realize that my point was that trying to eradicate terrorism is ridiculous?

Right?

Your point served as a further opportunity to undermine the pseudo-patriotic assholes who refuse to believe that the US- and fascist Israel- are despicable deniers of human rights- not defenders of them.

What is so difficult about being a proud American and simultaneously agreeing that your government is scum ?

[McRocket]

Your point served as a further opportunity to undermine the pseudo-patriotic assholes who refuse to believe that the US- and fascist Israel- are despicable deniers of human rights- not defenders of them.

What is so difficult about being a proud American and simultaneously agreeing that your government is scum ?

Answers?

I agree and nothing, respectively.


I used to be MEGA-pro Israel...until about 1982.
I am still pro-Israel.
But I am anti-rightwing Israel.
And I am disgusted with the way the rightwing Israeli's treat the Palestinians like dirt.

And I am disgusted that SO many Americans support those rightwing Israeli's?
Even though Israel has done NOTHING.
NOTHING for America in at least a generation.
And has cost us hundreds of billions of dollars.

And I am 100% against America budding into other countries businesses.
I was against Iraqi Freedom and whatever they called invading Afghanistan.
And I (and many others like me) were proven DEAD RIGHT.

Finally?
The notion that you can end terrorism by killing the terrorists has been proven by history to be 100% wrong.
No major terrorist group has ever been 'killed off'.
Ever.
They either give up or get what they want.
You NEVER 'kill them/capture them all'.

Later.

BTW - unlike most people who seem to feel this way?
I was in the military.
I joined the Reserves when I was 18.
I am MEGA glad that I joined.
But...I am also glad I am 'out'.
No way I will die doing some politician's dirty work...thank you.

[anatta]

Wow!

Sure is fortunate we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to wipe out ISIS/terrorism.

Oh...wait...

the invasion of Iraq was before the advent of ISIS.
Before ISIS there was AQIR - also manifested after the invasion

https://www.britannica.com/topic/al-Qaeda-in-Iraq
Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQIR) first appeared in 2004 when Abū Muṣʿab al-Zarqāwī, a Jordanian-born militant already leading insurgent attacks in Iraq, formed an alliance with al-Qaeda, pledging his group’s allegiance to Osama bin Laden in return for bin Laden’s endorsement as the leader of al-Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.

[McRocket]

the invasion of Iraq was before the advent of ISIS.
Before ISIS there was AQIR - also manifested after the invasion

https://www.britannica.com/topic/al-Qaeda-in-Iraq
Al-Qaeda in Iraq first appeared in 2004 when Abū Muṣʿab al-Zarqāwī, a Jordanian-born militant already leading insurgent attacks in Iraq, formed an alliance with al-Qaeda, pledging his group’s allegiance to Osama bin Laden in return for bin Laden’s endorsement as the leader of al-Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.

It is well known that the invasion of Iraq and the beheading of the Bath party created ISIL/ISIS.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/29/...tate-blowback/
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-us-...-invading-iraq

And there were NO WMD's in Iraq when invaded.
The ENTIRE exercise was useless.

And Afghanistan was even worse.
A total disaster.
Bin Laden was already forced into Pakistan when the 'invasion' began.

Between the two of them?
Over a trillion wasted.
Many thousands of Americans dead and maimed.
And NOTHING was solved.

Total waste.

You don't agree?
Fine.

Good day.

[anatta]

Answers?

I agree and nothing, respectively.


I used to be MEGA-pro Israel...until about 1982.
I am still pro-Israel.
But I am anti-rightwing Israel.
And I am disgusted with the way the rightwing Israeli's treat the Palestinians like dirt.


No major terrorist group has ever been 'killed off'.
Ever.
They either give up or get what they want.
You NEVER 'kill them/capture them all'.

the concept is called "suppression" of terrorism,
since Salfi Islam (jihadists) is a movement you cant kill an ideology
but you can most certainly disrupt its plots and kill it's leadership
~~
As to the Palestinians other Arab state treat them "like dirt"a s well.
It's how Trump was able to bypass them with the Abraham Accords -they wern't relevant
since they made themselves that way

[anatta]

It is well known that the invasion of Iraq and the beheading of the Bath party created ISIL/ISIS.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/29/...tate-blowback/
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-us-...-invading-iraq

And there were NO WMD's in Iraq when invaded.
The ENTIRE exercise was useless.

And Afghanistan was even worse.
A total disaster.
Bin Laden was already forced into Pakistan when the 'invasion' began.

Between the two of them?
Over a trillion wasted.
Many thousands of Americans dead and maimed.
And NOTHING was solved.

Total waste.

You don't agree?
Fine.

Good day.

lol . you cant just write shit and not expect to be challenged.

So called "de-Baathification" of the Iraqi army is what made AQIR so virulent
It got officers from Saddams's Sunni leadership involved in a nationalist movement that aligned with al-Qaeda to form AQIR -again AFTER our invasion

As to AfPak , going in and killing terrorists was a fine idea. What sidetracked and bogged us down
was the neocons desire to 'nationbuild' (counterinsurgency) instead of just killing AQ (counterterrorism)