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    Luke portrays Jesus’s ministry as a prophetic call to inclusion in God’s people. Luke’s language about wealth and material possessions has two aspects:

    • At one level, it symbolizes the marginalized of society who are called into God’s favor.

    • At another level, the response to that call must be enacted by the use of possessions; that is, possessions are shared with others.

    Thus, in Luke, Jesus’s ministry is more political than it is in Mark and Matthew; it is remarkable for the way in which Jesus reaches out to the stigmatized of society.

    For eating with tax collectors and sinners, Jesus is rebuked by the Pharisees (7:34). In Luke’s narrative, sinners, the outcast, and the poor are the new righteous, while the righteous and the powerful are being excluded.

    Luke-Acts places the emphasis on communal property and the eschewing of ostentatious wealth and material possession.

    In Luke’s Gospel, Jesus is himself a charismatic figure whose radical manner of life exemplifies his program. The Lukan Jesus calls followers to a radical discipleship that imitates the prophetic life of Jesus.


    Source credit: Luke Timothy Johnson" PhD, Emory University

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    According to William Cook, professor of religious history, the Liberation Theologists and Christian socialists of Latin America highlight the Jewish 8th century BC prophets of the Old Testament, Amos, Isiah, Micah, and in the New Testament Luke and Acts as providing the theological framework directing the church to act against oppression of the poor.

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    you could tie the Protestant Reformation to this take in that faith is more a call to acts than symbolism and cash.
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    Yeah, um. Parallel between Jesus and commies not found, sorry.

    All commies deny the existence of Jesus anyway. God, too.

    It's how they roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    you could tie the Protestant Reformation to this take in that faith is more a call to acts than symbolism and cash.
    Interesting how Christianity has been interpreted by people from across the spectrum. Calvinist Protestantism ultimately tended to look favorably upon hard work and the accumulation of wealth, while Latin American liberation theology looked to a type of Christian socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Interesting how Christianity has been interpreted by people from across the spectrum. Calvinist Protestantism ultimately tended to look favorably upon hard work and the accumulation of wealth, while Latin American liberation theology looked to a type of Christian socialism.
    Of course Jesus was neither and his only interest in politics was to not run afoul of it. render unto Caesar and all.

    whats more interesting is people trying to politisize something that is apolitical.

    Jesus had no issue with prosperity only pointed out that it can be difficult for some whose primary interest is showing off that wealth might have a hard time accepting a lord and savior (hard for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, that eye was a term for a low passage through a city wall which would require the camel to go on its knees).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Of course Jesus was neither and his only interest in politics was to not run afoul of it. render unto Caesar and all.

    whats more interesting is people trying to politisize something that is apolitical.

    Jesus had no issue with prosperity only pointed out that it can be difficult for some whose primary interest is showing off that wealth might have a hard time accepting a lord and savior (hard for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, that eye was a term for a low passage through a city wall which would require the camel to go on its knees).
    Horse shit!

    Jesus...and Luke...both were communists before the time of communism.

    A kind of communism makes sense to me. Not that everyone have equal...but that everyone have sufficient...and then whatever exists above everyone having sufficient be worked out in the dog eat dog world.
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    Jesus was all about helping and loving each other


    ORGANIZED RELIGION has a long record of manipulating Jesus’s clear meanings into something that protects the worlds current power structure



    Read the words in red


    They are easy to understand


    You don’t need someone to explain it all to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Horse shit!

    Jesus...and Luke...both were communists before the time of communism.

    A kind of communism makes sense to me. Not that everyone have equal...but that everyone have sufficient...and then whatever exists above everyone having sufficient be worked out in the dog eat dog world.
    only problem is that Jesus did not see the government as benevolent and the driver in being one's brother's keeper. that was our job. the idea of making it the government's job was a way to separate you from your money. so govt takes your dollar, spends a penny on brother's keeper and eats the rest.

    govt is never the solution, it is always the problem.

    even Jesus knew this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Jesus was all about helping and loving each other


    ORGANIZED RELIGION has a long record of manipulating Jesus’s clear meanings into something that protects the worlds current power structure



    Read the words in red


    They are easy to understand


    You don’t need someone to explain it all to you

    OMG for once in your life you got something RIGHT ! well done !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    only problem is that Jesus did not see the government as benevolent and the driver in being one's brother's keeper. that was our job. the idea of making it the government's job was a way to separate you from your money. so govt takes your dollar, spends a penny on brother's keeper and eats the rest.

    govt is never the solution, it is always the problem.

    even Jesus knew this.
    The government is the government. It is the only way civilization and society can survive. Jesus had no problem with that.

    Many Americans do have a problem with that. They think that individual freedom is more important than the concessions we all have to make for society to function.

    As for the "govt is never the solution, it is always the problem"...that is something only assholes like Ronald Reagan ever pushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    The government is the government. It is the only way civilization and society can survive. Jesus had no problem with that.

    Many Americans do have a problem with that. They think that individual freedom is more important than the concessions we all have to make for society to function.

    As for the "govt is never the solution, it is always the problem"...that is something only assholes like Ronald Reagan ever pushed.
    Reagan believed government is the enemy. Two terms as governor of California. Two terms as President of the United States. Yeah...he hated himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    OMG for once in your life you got something RIGHT ! well done !
    Ive been saying this for decades dude



    It’s people like you who think Jesus said “be evil to your neighbor if their skin is brown”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    only problem is that Jesus did not see the government as benevolent and the driver in being one's brother's keeper. that was our job. the idea of making it the government's job was a way to separate you from your money. so govt takes your dollar, spends a penny on brother's keeper and eats the rest.

    govt is never the solution, it is always the problem.

    even Jesus knew this.



    Jesus would have loved democracy


    The fact that you don’t love democracy doesn’t change that

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