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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    "Cartels processing migrants before they cross into the United States — putting wristbands on them, for example. They're logging everything about them, that's how they're able to keep them into debt bondage,” or the pledge of services as security for the repayment of debt in which the terms of repayment are unclear and the debt holder keeps control.

    Smugglers usually work for an organization or pay a fee to each gang in the territory they use. Some coyotes don't receive direct money from migrants; in many cases, they're just workers doing their job.

    Instead, experts say, the wire transfer or cash paid by those crossing the border — which can range from $1,300 to $10,000, depending on the migrants’ nationality — goes mostly to the person in charge of the trafficking business, often a cartel member. Portions of those fees also go to corrupt Mexican authorities and government checkpoints or "retenes," located throughout the south of Mexico.

    https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...er/5290082001/
    Human trafficking is a polite word for human slavery.

    Think about it: all the handwringing and moral preening over slavery hundreds of years ago in this country and nothing but crickets about the slavery our own government is enabling by our lack of border policy.

    Maybe BLM will start making some noise over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Human trafficking is a polite word for human slavery.

    Think about it: all the handwringing and moral preening over slavery hundreds of years ago in this country and nothing but crickets about the slavery our own government is enabling by our lack of border policy.

    Maybe BLM will start making some noise over it.
    There could be an argument made that what the Biden administration is doing at the border is in fact furthering human trafficking as a willing participant. The fig leaf of giving them an immigration hearing at some vague future date is really meaningless when they are allowed into the US in any case, will almost certainly get work, might receive government assistance, likely get valid US ID like a driver's license, etc.

    The argument could be that Biden and Harris are aiding and abetting the cartels in Mexico by their unwillingness to uphold US immigration laws and are therefore criminally complicit themselves in human trafficking. It might be an interesting international move for a nation or two that is a US rival--say China or Russia--to simply bring this up before the UN or other international political body (the international court in the Hague?) and put Biden and Harris on the defensive over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    a Dem president, Dem house, and Dem senate is NEVER going to incur an impeachment in our day and age. same goes for republicans.........

    let it go
    You forgot Slicky Willy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I’m not even sure I want him impeached [let the voters kick him out] but the point is it’s definitely an impeachable offense when you consider the *young* lives being taken by the Fentanyl, the human trafficking that’s being enabled and by the fact the Mexican cartels have more control over our border than we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I’m not even sure I want him impeached [let the voters kick him out] but the point is it’s definitely an impeachable offense when you consider the *young* lives being taken by the Fentanyl, the human trafficking that’s being enabled and by the fact the Mexican cartels have more control over our border than we do.
    fuck you losers. US law mandates all who make it to our soil have a right to a hearing on asylum. biden is following that law. you hypocrites are amazing- you spend most of your time saying vacs don't work, it is your right to refuse one, but with these people you demand they get a shot not knowing their medical history, if they have already been vaccinated, and without their consent just for following our law on asking for asylum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Actually, in ignoring immigration law in nearly the whole, he could be said to be complicit in a crime by not upholding his oath of office and enforcing all the laws of the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Human trafficking is a polite word for human slavery.

    Think about it: all the handwringing and moral preening over slavery hundreds of years ago in this country and nothing but crickets about the slavery our own government is enabling by our lack of border policy.

    Maybe BLM will start making some noise over it.
    when mainly black people were smoking crack and shooting up heroin, repubs said, and many democrats, throw them in jail for a few years, fuck their weak dope addicted ass. now that is mainly crackers and rural hillbillies doing oxycontin and fentanyl, the repubs are defending them BUYING THAT SHIT ON THEIR OWN FREE WILL, and trying to blame it on poor people trying to better their lives by living here. what assholes you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Is Biden currently upholding immigration law? After all, he has suspended virtually all deportations under US law indefinitely.

    In practice, this means that ICE must release criminal aliens and others in custody who are not covered in these definitions. This will include aliens convicted of domestic violence, sex offenses, drunk driving, theft causing loss of less than $10,000, vehicular homicide, an infinite number of misdemeanor crimes, and much more. It means that when USCIS refuses green cards or other benefits because the applications were fraudulent, that unqualified applicant will be able to stay anyway. It means that in the next 100 days, if a local police officer arrests a previously deported gang member, even one with a serious criminal history, for a new crime that is not an aggravated felony, ICE will not be able to take action to remove that gang member again.
    https://cis.org/Vaughan/Biden-Freeze...n-Deportations

    He suspended international agreements made by the Trump administration using illegal means...

    on Saturday, February 6, 2021, Biden’s DOS (Department of State) suspended ACAs established by the Trump administration with countries of the Northern Triangle of Central America (Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras). The Biden administration plans to permanently remove these agreements “after the notice period stipulated in each of the Agreements, but their suspension is immediate.”
    https://www.motionlaw.com/the-biden-...ntral-america/

    Biden wants to continue to run the DACA program even as the courts have declared it illegal.

    President Joe Biden on Saturday vowed to preserve a program that protects from deportation hundreds of thousands of immigrants brought to the United States as children, promising to appeal a judge's "deeply disappointing" ruling invalidating it and urging Congress to provide them a path to citizenship.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ongress-to-act

    President Biden is 'ignoring' federal law with sweeping executive orders on immigration he has signed since taking office, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said Sunday, creating a "huge risk" for his state.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...n-texas-border

    There's good evidence that Biden is ignoring his oath of office when it comes to immigration law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Is Biden currently upholding immigration law? After all, he has suspended virtually all deportations under US law indefinitely.


    https://cis.org/Vaughan/Biden-Freeze...n-Deportations

    He suspended international agreements made by the Trump administration using illegal means...


    https://www.motionlaw.com/the-biden-...ntral-america/

    Biden wants to continue to run the DACA program even as the courts have declared it illegal.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ongress-to-act


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...n-texas-border

    There's good evidence that Biden is ignoring his oath of office when it comes to immigration law.
    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...e-social-medi/

    On Feb. 1, the Associated Press reported that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had recently deported immigrants to at least three countries: 15 people to Jamaica and 269 people to Guatemala and Honduras, and that more deportation flights were scheduled. At the same time, AP said that some of the people deported on flights "may have been" expelled under Title 42.
    ICE data show that there have been around 28,700 deportations in fiscal year 2021 — but that includes aggregate data since October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Is Biden currently upholding immigration law? After all, he has suspended virtually all deportations under US law indefinitely.


    https://cis.org/Vaughan/Biden-Freeze...n-Deportations

    He suspended international agreements made by the Trump administration using illegal means...


    https://www.motionlaw.com/the-biden-...ntral-america/

    Biden wants to continue to run the DACA program even as the courts have declared it illegal.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ongress-to-act


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...n-texas-border

    There's good evidence that Biden is ignoring his oath of office when it comes to immigration law.
    it is not settled law. all presidents have extraordinary power that takes some time for the courts to shut down or allow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Is Biden currently upholding immigration law? After all, he has suspended virtually all deportations under US law indefinitely.


    https://cis.org/Vaughan/Biden-Freeze...n-Deportations

    He suspended international agreements made by the Trump administration using illegal means...


    https://www.motionlaw.com/the-biden-...ntral-america/

    Biden wants to continue to run the DACA program even as the courts have declared it illegal.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ongress-to-act


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...n-texas-border

    There's good evidence that Biden is ignoring his oath of office when it comes to immigration law.
    “Many are blaming President Biden’s deportation policies for this slowdown in removals, but the downward trend in removals started before he took office. Figure 1 shows the total number of ICE removals and ICE arrests over time. Most of the arrests are called Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) administrative arrests. The number of arrests and removals are correlated over the entire period (+0.76), but not more closely correlated than that because a large percentage of ICE removals comes from Border Patrol apprehensions and not from ICE arrests. In fiscal year 2020 (October 2019‐​September 2020), 66 percent of all ICE removals were border removals of individuals apprehended by Border Patrol and turned over to ICE for removal, while the remainder were arrested by ICE. Additionally, ICE is removing people under Title 42 but they aren’t being counted as removals.”


    https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-admi...ion-not-much-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...e-social-medi/

    On Feb. 1, the Associated Press reported that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had recently deported immigrants to at least three countries: 15 people to Jamaica and 269 people to Guatemala and Honduras, and that more deportation flights were scheduled. At the same time, AP said that some of the people deported on flights "may have been" expelled under Title 42.
    ICE data show that there have been around 28,700 deportations in fiscal year 2021 — but that includes aggregate data since October.
    A tiny fraction of what Trump, Obama, and other previous administrations did. Biden has narrowed the conditions for deportation to a point where it has become almost irrelevant, as I demonstrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A tiny fraction of what Trump, Obama, and other previous administrations did. Biden has narrowed the conditions for deportation to a point where it has become almost irrelevant, as I demonstrated.
    You’ve demonstrated nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    it is not settled law. all presidents have extraordinary power that takes some time for the courts to shut down or allow.
    You defend Biden's action for allowing criminal and gang member aliens to remain in the US even after they commit new crimes in the US? He's allowing persons who lie on official immigration paperwork to stay as well.
    You condone that?

    DACA was ruled illegal as it created a new category of immigration law through executive order. The courts ruled that only Congress has that authority and DACA was therefore illegal. Biden wants to enforce it anyway. Is that something you support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    You’ve demonstrated nothing.
    You didn't read any of the earlier links I posted obviously.

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