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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    China is a strategic foe. simple national security means we dont buy (crappy) carriers from China
    Again, I think you are missing the point.

    The Point is 'Government Interference' in supposedly 'Free Markets'. Where is your Priority?
    Is the non-existent 'Pure Capitalism' your mantra, even though that doesn't exist except in your Fantasy World (the Sugar Lobby and the subsidies to the Sugar Industry should make you clearly aware of this).
    Or is the viability of USA as a World Leader in Western Democracy and Social Values your Priority, whatever it takes?

    I have no interest in China having the US by the Balls like Saudi Arabia and OPEC had us in the Past. I have zero interest in letting an Authoritarian State be the World Leader. China has 2 million Censors monitoring their Internet, is that what you want for America and the rest of the World?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    china should have never been allowed to trade with the west.

    why do american "free marketeers" love chinese mercantilism so much?


    were they just shortsighted and excited about cheap slave goods? apparently, yes.

    stupid imbeciles.
    Capitalism depends on Consumers. 1.5 billion Chinese tells you why Capitalists LOVE China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Arizona only faces a water shortage for two reasons:

    California and agriculture within the state.

    The second can be fixed by changing things like how crops are watered like using drip irrigation rather than central pivot for example. We can't do anything about the idiocrasy of California.
    Do you think the American Government building the Hoover Dam was a Good Idea?

    "The history of federal involvement in dam construction goes back at
    least to the 1820s, when the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers built wing dams
    to improve navigation on the Ohio River. The work expanded after the Civil
    War, when Congress authorized the Corps to build storage dams on the upper
    Mississippi River and regulatory dams to aid navigation on the Ohio River. In
    1902, when Congress established the Bureau of Reclamation (then called the
    “Reclamation Service”), the role of the federal government increased dramatically.
    Subsequently, large Bureau of Reclamation dams dotted the Western landscape."
    https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/onli...large_dams.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Capitalism depends on Consumers. 1.5 billion Chinese tells you why Capitalists LOVE China.
    but they are not giving good market access. they dump. they steal ip. they dont do real accounting. we're just getting bent over.

    is that what capitalists love?
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    but they are not giving good market access. they dump. they steal ip. they dont do real accounting. we're just getting bent over.

    is that what capitalists love?
    There is a little something for everybody. Dukkha loves the fact that the Chinese will buy our Soybean crops. I'm not sure, but I think Dukkha envisions America being the 'Food Basket' for China. Of course, the Chinese have bigger plans, much bigger plans.

    See. Look at this and think '1.5 billion Chinese':



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    There is a little something for everybody. Dukkha loves the fact that the Chinese will buy our Soybean crops. I'm not sure, but I think Dukkha envisions America being the 'Food Basket' for China. Of course, the Chinese have bigger plans, much bigger plans.

    See. Look at this and think '1.5 billion Chinese':


    stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    stupid.

    Capitalism. It's all about the Money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Capitalism. It's all about the Money.
    stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    stupid.

    You live in a Corporate State. Smell the Coffee, AssHat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Do you think the American Government building the Hoover Dam was a Good Idea?

    "The history of federal involvement in dam construction goes back at
    least to the 1820s, when the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers built wing dams
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    Mississippi River and regulatory dams to aid navigation on the Ohio River. In
    1902, when Congress established the Bureau of Reclamation (then called the
    “Reclamation Service”), the role of the federal government increased dramatically.
    Subsequently, large Bureau of Reclamation dams dotted the Western landscape."
    https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/onli...large_dams.pdf
    Yes, but today there are those that would tear it down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    You live in a Corporate State. Smell the Coffee, AssHat.
    I live in a world of human beings who have other values besides maximizing profit.

    you're a lost and demoralized idiot, pretending your shit values are wisdom.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Wait just one cotton pickin minute....for like 30 years I was promised that I dont need to worry about China, they cant innovate.

    What happened to that story?

    Poof?
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Yes, but today there are those that would tear it down...
    Good. You agree that some things shouldn't be left to 'the Private sector' to get things done.
    I will stop here and not bring up the Interstate Highway System.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    I live in a world of human beings who have other values besides maximizing profit.

    you're a lost and demoralized idiot, pretending your shit values are wisdom.
    It's a Politics Forum, ... we all have opinions, AssHat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Wait just one cotton pickin minute....for like 30 years I was promised that I dont need to worry about China, they cant innovate.

    What happened to that story?

    Poof?

    YOU are also the guy that bought 2 pillows from that PillowGuy.





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