AZ senator rogers calls to decertify election

[Flash]

The evidence has already been provided to you. RQAA. Stop asking the same question over and over. It's already been answered.

There are no results. There was no election in 2020. Biden was installed, not elected.

Furtive fallacy.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Random numbers are not data. There was no election in 2020. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats. Biden was installed, not elected.

The Electoral College in 2020
The following is a summary of how the Electoral College will work in the 2020 presidential election:

Spring and Summer 2020: Nomination of Electors. The political parties in each state nominate their electors. Parties and states have different ways of going about this, but a party's presidential electors are generally loyal or consistent party members. The parties want to be sure they can rely on their electors to cast their votes for the party's nominee for president.

Nov. 3, 2020: Election Day, when voters in each state will select their presidential electors. The names of electors are not on the ballot in most states. Rather, when a voter casts a vote for a presidential candidate, s/he is also casting a vote for the electors already selected by the party of that candidate. If a majority of voters in a state vote for the Republican candidate for president, the Republican slate of electors is elected. If a majority vote for the Democratic candidate, the Democratic slate of electors is chosen.

Dec. 8, 2020: Deadline for Resolving Election Disputes. All state recounts and court contests over presidential election results must be completed by this date. (3 U.S.C. § 5). For the majority of states the date of certification is the same as for all contests, but in eight states there is a deadline that either directly references 3 USC §5 or uses similar language, requiring that disputes surrounding the selection of presidential electors be resolved in time to meet the “safe harbor” deadline: Indiana, Iowa, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia. For detailed information on state post-election processes, please visit this page.

Dec. 14, 2020: Meeting of the Electors. The electors meet in each state and cast their ballots for president and vice president. Each elector votes on his or her own ballot and signs it. The ballots are immediately transmitted to various people: one copy goes to the president of the U.S. Senate (who is also the vice president of the United States); this is the copy that will be officially counted later. Other copies go to the state's secretary of state, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the presiding judge in the district where the electors meet (this serves as a backup copy that would replace the official copy sent to the president of the Senate if it is lost or destroyed).

Dec. 23, 2020: Deadline for Receipt of Ballots. The electors' ballots from all states must be received by the president of the Senate by this date. There is no penalty for missing this deadline.

Jan. 6, 2021: Counting of the Electoral Ballots. The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.

Jan. 20, 2021: Inauguration Day. The president-elect becomes the president of the United States

Nomination of Electors
The U.S. Constitution does not specify procedures for the nomination of candidates for presidential elector. The two most common methods the states have adopted are nomination by state party convention and by state party committee. Generally, the parties select members known for their loyalty and service to the party, such as party leaders, state and local elected officials and party activists. In some states, the electors’ names appear on the ballot along with the names of the candidates for president and vice president. However, in most states, electors' names are not printed on the ballot. When a voter casts a vote for a candidate for President of the United States, s/he is in actuality casting a vote for the presidential electors who were selected by that candidate's party.

Awarding Electoral Votes
All 50 states and the District of Columbia use one of two methods for awarding their electoral votes:

The Winner-Take-All System
In 48 states and the District of Columbia, when a candidate for president wins a state's popular vote, that party's slate of electors will be the ones to cast the vote for president of the United States in December. For example, Florida has 29 electoral votes. If President Donald Trump wins the state’s popular vote on Nov. 3, the 29 electors nominated by the Republican Party in Florida will be selected. These 29 people will gather on Dec. 14 to cast their votes for president of the United States.

The District System
Maine and Nebraska are the only states that do not use a winner-take-all system. Instead, in these two states, one electoral vote is awarded to the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote in each congressional district, and the remaining two electoral votes are awarded to the candidates receiving the most votes statewide. This is known as the district system. It is possible under the district system to split the electoral vote for the state. This happened in 2008 in Nebraska: Barack Obama won the electoral vote in the congressional district including Omaha, while John McCain won in the state's other two districts and won the statewide vote as well, securing the state's two at-large votes. Thus, when the Nebraska presidential electors met in December 2008, there were four Republican electors and one Democrat. That election was the first time Nebraska's electoral vote was split.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...l-college.aspx

[Into the Night]

It is not "my footwork." When you claim I said something I never said, it is your footwork to prove I said it.

Denial of self argument fallacy.

But, you never support anything you say.

No, that would be YOU.

[Into the Night]

All states used the same procedures certifying the election results as they used in 2016.

No, they didn't.

That means Trump was never elected

Yes he was.

because Congress chose the electors

No, the States chose the electors. Congress has no authority to choose the electors for any State.

against the constitutional requirement that only the legislature can choose electors.

The States did choose electors in 2016. At least seven States did not choose electors in 2020. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

[Into the Night]

"FBI led" is a wild fantasy that shows you will believe anything.

Denial of evidence. It has again already been presented to you. Argument of the stone fallacy. You can't just wish the evidence away.

The Senate voted to accept the electors

The Senate does not have the authority to choose electors for any State.

over the objection of only six senators to the AZ count.

AZ did not send any electors. The legislature never chose any.

So, it was the same procedure as 2016 with the few objections being rejected.

No, it isn't.

[Into the Night]

Furtive fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. Argument of the stone fallacy. Mockery. The evidence has already been provided to you. RQAA. Stop asking the same question over and over. It's already been answered.

There are no results. There was no election in 2020. Biden was installed, not elected.

[Hawkeye10]

Fallacy fallacy. The evidence has already been provided to you. RQAA. Stop asking the same question over and over. It's already been answered.

There are no results. There was no election in 2020. Biden was installed, not elected.

Which they attempted to do with Clinton Corp...but failed....because Trump.

[Into the Night]

[QUOTE=Hoosier Daddy;4581637]
The Electoral College in 2020
The following is a summary of how the Electoral College will work in the 2020 presidential election:

Spring and Summer 2020: Nomination of Electors. The political parties in each state nominate their electors. Parties and states have different ways of going about this, but a party's presidential electors are generally loyal or consistent party members. The parties want to be sure they can rely on their electors to cast their votes for the party's nominee for president.

Nov. 3, 2020: Election Day, when voters in each state will select their presidential electors. The names of electors are not on the ballot in most states. Rather, when a voter casts a vote for a presidential candidate, s/he is also casting a vote for the electors already selected by the party of that candidate. If a majority of voters in a state vote for the Republican candidate for president, the Republican slate of electors is elected. If a majority vote for the Democratic candidate, the Democratic slate of electors is chosen.

Dec. 8, 2020: Deadline for Resolving Election Disputes. All state recounts and court contests over presidential election results must be completed by this date. (3 U.S.C. § 5). For the majority of states the date of certification is the same as for all contests, but in eight states there is a deadline that either directly references 3 USC §5 or uses similar language, requiring that disputes surrounding the selection of presidential electors be resolved in time to meet the “safe harbor” deadline: Indiana, Iowa, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia. For detailed information on state post-election processes, please visit this page.

Dec. 14, 2020: Meeting of the Electors. The electors meet in each state and cast their ballots for president and vice president. Each elector votes on his or her own ballot and signs it. The ballots are immediately transmitted to various people: one copy goes to the president of the U.S. Senate (who is also the vice president of the United States); this is the copy that will be officially counted later. Other copies go to the state's secretary of state, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the presiding judge in the district where the electors meet (this serves as a backup copy that would replace the official copy sent to the president of the Senate if it is lost or destroyed).

Dec. 23, 2020: Deadline for Receipt of Ballots. The electors' ballots from all states must be received by the president of the Senate by this date. There is no penalty for missing this deadline.

Jan. 6, 2021: Counting of the Electoral Ballots. The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.

Jan. 20, 2021: Inauguration Day. The president-elect becomes the president of the United States

Nomination of Electors
The U.S. Constitution does not specify procedures for the nomination of candidates for presidential elector. The two most common methods the states have adopted are nomination by state party convention and by state party committee. Generally, the parties select members known for their loyalty and service to the party, such as party leaders, state and local elected officials and party activists. In some states, the electors’ names appear on the ballot along with the names of the candidates for president and vice president. However, in most states, electors' names are not printed on the ballot. When a voter casts a vote for a candidate for President of the United States, s/he is in actuality casting a vote for the presidential electors who were selected by that candidate's party.

Awarding Electoral Votes
All 50 states and the District of Columbia use one of two methods for awarding their electoral votes:

The Winner-Take-All System
In 48 states and the District of Columbia, when a candidate for president wins a state's popular vote, that party's slate of electors will be the ones to cast the vote for president of the United States in December. For example, Florida has 29 electoral votes. If President Donald Trump wins the state’s popular vote on Nov. 3, the 29 electors nominated by the Republican Party in Florida will be selected. These 29 people will gather on Dec. 14 to cast their votes for president of the United States.

The District System
Maine and Nebraska are the only states that do not use a winner-take-all system. Instead, in these two states, one electoral vote is awarded to the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote in each congressional district, and the remaining two electoral votes are awarded to the candidates receiving the most votes statewide. This is known as the district system. It is possible under the district system to split the electoral vote for the state. This happened in 2008 in Nebraska: Barack Obama won the electoral vote in the congressional district including Omaha, while John McCain won in the state's other two districts and won the statewide vote as well, securing the state's two at-large votes. Thus, when the Nebraska presidential electors met in December 2008, there were four Republican electors and one Democrat. That election was the first time Nebraska's electoral vote was split.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...l-college.aspx

False authority fallacy. Only the Constitution of the United States is the authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.
At least seven States never chose electors. Only the legislatures of a State can choose electors.

[Hoosier Daddy]

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The Electoral College in 2020
The following is a summary of how the Electoral College will work in the 2020 presidential election:


False authority fallacy. Only the Constitution of the United States is the authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.
At least seven States never chose electors. Only the legislatures of a State can choose electors.

you are insane.

[Hawkeye10]

[QUOTE=Hoosier Daddy;4581819]

you are insane.

Ha Ha.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

"FBI led" is a wild fantasy that shows you will believe anything. The Senate voted to accept the electors over the objection of only six senators to the AZ count. So, it was the same procedure as 2016 with the few objections being rejected.

no. it's true. sorry deep state shitsuck.

they were supposed to adjourn and then deliberate and then reconvene.

were they voting while being attacked?

[Flash]

Denial of self argument fallacy.

No, that would be YOU.

No, all we have to do is show you the words in the Constitution to prove you wrong.

[Flash]

Denial of evidence. It has again already been presented to you. Argument of the stone fallacy. You can't just wish the evidence away.

Nope, you never present any evidence but pretend you did although you can never "find" where you posted that information. RQAA is not evidence.

Nobody ever presented any evidence to show the FBI led anything. Tucker Carlson said the unindicted co-conspirators were probably FBI agents but he was proven wrong. Government agents doing legal undercover work can never be unindicted co-conspirators because they have committed no crime.

Carlson never bothered to defend his claim because he knew the Trump supporters don't need proof--they believe anything.

[Flash]

Fallacy fallacy. Argument of the stone fallacy. Mockery. The evidence has already been provided to you. RQAA. Stop asking the same question over and over. It's already been answered.

There are no results. There was no election in 2020. Biden was installed, not elected.

Furtive fallacy is not mockery. It is for people who will believe unproven conspiracies.

To deny the 2020 election took place and elected Biden is to deny the Constitution of the U. S. and the constitutions of the fifty states.

Again, they used the same procedures as they used in 2016 to choose electors. So, if there was no election in 2020 there also was no election in 2016.

BS Fallacy.

[Flash]

no. it's true. sorry deep state shitsuck.

they were supposed to adjourn and then deliberate and then reconvene.

were they voting while being attacked?

No, they reconvened later and took the vote.

Here is a video of the AZ electors casting their electoral votes as provided for in the U. S. and AZ constitution and laws:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...f90_video.html

So, yes, AZ (and all other states plus D. C.) legally cast their electoral votes for president and VP.

"Hours after pro-Trump protesters swarmed the U.S. Capitol, the House and Senate returned to resume certification of the Electoral College votes for president. Early this morning, they certified the results for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

The U.S. Congress certified Joe Biden’s win in the 2020 presidential election early Thursday morning, hours after overwhelmingly voting against an objection by U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, to the certification of Arizona's results and another to the results from Pennsylvania.

The Wednesday night vote on Arizona — 93-6 in the U.S. Senate and 303-121 in the U.S. House — came after Congress reconvened to certify Electoral College votes for president, hours after the U.S. Capitol devolved into chaos. Supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the building Wednesday afternoon, interrupting debate on certification. The disorder brought the discussion on Cruz's objection to a halt.


Cruz was one of six senators who voted for his objection on Arizona. The state's other Texan in the Senate, U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, voted against it.


So, too, did Cruz's former chief of staff, now a member of the U.S. House."