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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Darth,



    Both the left and the right have their shallow thinkers. People are people. We are more alike than hopeless partisans want to admit. We need to unite to fight COVID.
    At this point I’m nearly convinced we will have to live with Covid. But it does have a 99+% survival rate. The vaccines are failing. Whoever heard of requiring *the vaccinated* to mask to protect the unvaccinated.

    This is nothing short of Cluster F*.
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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    At this point I’m nearly convinced we will have to live with Covid. But it does have a 99+% survival rate. The vaccines are failing. Whoever heard of requiring *the vaccinated* to mask to protect the unvaccinated.

    This is nothing short of Cluster F*.
    A unified response would be far superior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    At this point I’m nearly convinced we will have to live with Covid. But it does have a 99+% survival rate. The vaccines are failing. Whoever heard of requiring *the vaccinated* to mask to protect the unvaccinated.

    This is nothing short of Cluster F*.
    These crazy made-up numbers again. Hospitals are jammed with Covid patients. The ICUs are under huge stress. Younger and younger people are weeping because they did not get the shot. What makes no sense is refusing to get a shot that might save your life and family. You are so wrong and proud of doing what is bad for you the family and the nation. Get the shot. It is free and easy.

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    Hello Nordberg,

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    These crazy made-up numbers again. Hospitals are jammed with Covid patients. The ICUs are under huge stress. Younger and younger people are weeping because they did not get the shot. What makes no sense is refusing to get a shot that might save your life and family. You are so wrong and proud of doing what is bad for you the family and the nation. Get the shot. It is free and easy.
    9200 Americans are in Serious / Critical condition. The number is rising daily. Most of them are not vaccinated.

    99% of all deaths now are unvaccinated.

    I've begun tracking the numbers again since we bottomed out and Active Cases are on the rise. This gives us a searchable reference:

    Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Maybe i should pose this question to Concart. He's on a lot of threads complaining about those not getting vaxxed.
    Blue Team is trying to win Elections. Red Team is not getting vaccinated and dying off.

    What is Blue Team complaining about?




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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    I shall fight with the pen as mightily as I would fight with the sword to save American lives, regardless of their political persuasion. And should I prevail, I shall then fight them with words for the betterment of our nation and the condition of her people. And I shall know that, when I am gone, I will have left the world a better place than I was born into.

    (Pardon my words, sir, for I have been reading Forester...)

    Uh, let's see. When the Fascists use your face as a Door Mat to wipe their boots on, please try to remember your noble crusade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Blue Team is trying to win Elections. Red Team is not getting vaccinated and dying off.

    What is Blue Team complaining about?
    Several Blue Team members have expressed their desire to murder Red Team members. This is a way to let them off the hook. A win - win for everybody!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The Corona Virus Mutated into a more contagious variant called Delta.

    The pandemic is coming back on. (We failed to get enough of us vaccinated.)

    All the bad numbers are shooting up again.

    The CDC responded by issuing more aggressive guidelines.

    Republicans refuse to 'get it' that things have changed. They are pretending it's the same old Corona, and the CDC is just changing it's mind willy nilly.

    That's silly.

    Silly Republicans.

    Sad and silly.

    Republicans are pandering to anti social people whose only concern is themselves. We can't beat a pandemic with that kind of thinking. We have to have a coordinated response. We have to be united. This isn't political. It's virology. We have to stop this thing from spreading. We need everyone to get vaccinated. Take the risk, like the rest of us did. Do it for your country, like we did. We need you now.

    Sure, we don't know if there might be some unknown future side effects, but we do know if we get everyone vaccinated, we can beat Corona. Many of us held out. We wanted to see if there were any problems with the vaccines. Essentially there are none. It's safe. Almost nobody has died after getting the vaccine. 99% of deaths now are unvaccinated.

    It's time to do the patriotic thing. Get the vaccine.

    And nobody likes that we have to go back to masking. But that's what we have to do. Things have changed. We are losing the battle again. Maybe we dropped the precautions too soon before. Maybe if everyone had gotten the vaccine as soon as they could this wouldn't be happening. The Delta variant has changed things. We need to respond. We can't just ostrich our way out of this.

    Be a good American. Get the vaccine. Wear a mask.

    Like the rest of us who want this pandemic done and gone.
    fuck you and your lies.

    the nation says no.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



    Trump Wins,
    by definition
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    Originally Posted by Darth Omar
    At this point I’m nearly convinced we will have to live with Covid.

    I wonder why?

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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Uh, let's see. When the Fascists use your face as a Door Mat to wipe their boots on, please try to remember your noble crusade.
    Yeah, well, the tough guy talk is not for everyone.

    This is a war of ideas. The ones who tried to make it violent have mostly been locked up and are awaiting trial.

    We have to win over hearts and minds.

    The war of ideas doesn't have to be all mean and ugly. There are plenty of voices who try to insult and threaten people into seeing things their way. That appears to do nothing more than harden their resolve. That approach is well covered.

    That leaves me free to try to appeal to the thinking civil minds with reason.

    There is no one approach that is going to work in all cases. Neither the right nor left is comprised of all the same exact type of mindset. These people who think the right are all the same? Or the left are all the same? They can dream on, if they think the world is that simple.

    So basically, your way works for you; my way works for me.

    Plenty of people were anti-vax long before this pandemic. That exists on both sides of the isle. They are probably never going to change. But the ones who are holding out for political reasons? They are having second thoughts now that it is clear that 99% of the deaths are not vaccinated, and Delta is coming on strong. Lotta folks are sayin OK it's time to get vaxxed. Nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Several Blue Team members have expressed their desire to murder Red Team members. This is a way to let them off the hook. A win - win for everybody!
    Thank You. It seems ever so clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    Yeah, well, the tough guy talk is not for everyone.

    This is a war of ideas. The ones who tried to make it violent have mostly been locked up and are awaiting trial.

    We have to win over hearts and minds.

    The war of ideas doesn't have to be all mean and ugly. There are plenty of voices who try to insult and threaten people into seeing things their way. That appears to do nothing more than harden their resolve. That approach is well covered.

    That leaves me free to try to appeal to the thinking civil minds with reason.

    There is no one approach that is going to work in all cases. Neither the right nor left is comprised of all the same exact type of mindset. These people who think the right are all the same? Or the left are all the same? They can dream on, if they think the world is that simple.

    So basically, your way works for you; my way works for me.

    Plenty of people were anti-vax long before this pandemic. That exists on both sides of the isle. They are probably never going to change. But the ones who are holding out for political reasons? They are having second thoughts now that it is clear that 99% of the deaths are not vaccinated, and Delta is coming on strong. Lotta folks are sayin OK it's time to get vaxxed. Nothing wrong with that.




    Yes, yes. Of course. I'm sure the New American Nazis are all in on listening to your bleeding heart concepts. Your "Can't we all be friends" approach will surely sway them to Western Democratic Values.

    PoliTalk. When the Christian Fascists have you locked away in some '3 Generation Work Camp' making wooden Crucifixes and Prayer Beads, don't come crawling to Jack with some 'I guess I was wrong' plea. It will be TOO LATE!

    (... all this is going on your Permanent Record here at JPP)

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    So since it has changed


    Its now The Biden Virus

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    Hello Concart,

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    LOL, they think these infrastructure bills are some kind of radical agenda. Almost every proposal is wildly popular with the American people. Biden is a moderate. He is also a master politician. An infrastructure bill? I remember when Trump got one passed. Too funny.
    Trump talked about doing that. Biden is getting it done.

    Trump talked about doing a lot of things, followed through on little.

    Trump was a poser. Completely unknowledgeable of how government functions. Virtually unable to lead. Didn't understand how to get something through Congress, get something from the idea phase to actual legislation. We could hardly have had a more inappropriate person in the job.

    After Trump won, he visited President Obama at the WH. Obama said he was amazed at how little Trump knew about the job he was entering. Literally had to tell him everything he was going to be responsible for. I'm sure most of it was rejected out of hand.
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    World0Meters has the COVID dead 7 day moving average at 320....lowest was 227....highest 3493

    We are clearly nowhere near crisis territory yet.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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