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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    No he didn't, he was talking about the ban by Biden on new fracking and oil drilling. He then went cap in hand to the Saudis begging them to open up the oil taps to stop oil prices rocketing. How do you not know that already?
    Now the oil lease ban has been challenged by 12 states so expect your squeeze AOC to go apeshit soon when she wakes up.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneber...h=38820c7140d6
    APL doesn't seem to understand the difference between "curtail" and "stop/end". Kinda difficult to have a discussion w/ someone who can't understand basic english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    The deadly heat wave that roasted the Pacific Northwest and western Canada was virtually impossible without human-caused climate change that added a few extra degrees to the record-smashing temperatures, a new quick scientific analysis found.

    An international team of 27 scientists calculated that climate change increased chances of the extreme heat occurring by at least 150 times, but likely much more.


    https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/northw...limate-change/



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    Some idiot Trump cultist on the internet or all of science




    That was easy
    Fake News. Argument from randU fallacy. Science isn't an 'analysis'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Define 'climate change'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    A pipeline that did little to benefit the USA and endangered a major aquifer and wildlife.
    Pipelines do not endanger aquifer nor wildlife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Oh okay. So you have no problem with it.
    Not at all. But you won't explain how CURTAILING oil and gas production in the U.S. and replacing it with oil from the M.E. will cause the climate to unchange. FFS, this is the third time in this thread I've asked you that.
    If you can't explain, I understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    A pipeline that did little to benefit the USA and endangered a major aquifer and wildlife.
    Why hasn't the Alyeska pipeline not endangered wildlife? Is there something special about 1970's technology that causes pipelines from that era to not endanger wildlife?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Not at all. But you won't explain how CURTAILING oil and gas production in the U.S. and replacing it with oil from the M.E. will cause the climate to unchange. FFS, this is the third time in this thread I've asked you that.
    If you can't explain, I understand.
    So that comes back to me asking you to explain.

    Who claimed that it will "unchange" the climate.

    I thought the question was clear at first. I guess you are too slow. Maybe you didn't explain what exactly your problem was. If that is so, I would fault you for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You have a problem with capitalism? Why? it's the only economic system that creates wealth.

    No, they can't. Each plastic has unique properties suited to it's use that no plant can match.

    You obviously have no idea how long it takes to start a steam engine. You also seem to forgotten that external combustion engines use fuel just like internal combustion engines.

    I use denatured alcohol, since Windex and any water solution can easily leave spots.

    Who are 'they'?
    Since 1970s the pattern has reversed.
    Capitalists have been destroyers of wealth, and culture too.

    Most champion growth came from hybrid systems.

    Japan after WW2
    Francos Spanish miracle.
    FDR
    Nazi Germany
    Japan during WW2
    China since 1990.

    Steam cars with modern technology could probably change that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    APL doesn't seem to understand the difference between "curtail" and "stop/end". Kinda difficult to have a discussion w/ someone who can't understand basic english.
    I just don't understand what's wrong with the guy, he's clearly intelligent but you'd be hard pushed to tell sometimes when he has brain farts like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Building a coal plant does not give anyone leverage over a coal supplier.
    It does when you're a massive coal inporter. just like how McDonalds has the beef industry cater to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    That's putting it way too lightly.
    Cry more about it, I don't give a fuck you stupid bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nowhere in Canada has ever recorded 121 deg F.
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    Maybe below zero... But certainly not above...
    Google is your friend.

    A village in Canada called Lytton reached 121 Deg F. This summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You have a problem with capitalism? Why? it's the only economic system that creates wealth.

    No, they can't. Each plastic has unique properties suited to it's use that no plant can match.

    You obviously have no idea how long it takes to start a steam engine. You also seem to forgotten that external combustion engines use fuel just like internal combustion engines.

    I use denatured alcohol, since Windex and any water solution can easily leave spots.

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    SCIENCE

    New plant-based plastic can be printed—and fully recycled
    Could this be the chemists’ answer to the plastic problem chemistry helped create?
    By Prachi Patel
    February 25, 2021
    About 12 billion metric tons of plastic waste will be sitting in landfills or in the natural environment by 2050. To stop that deluge, and its associated carbon emissions, we’ll need many solutions. But a key one would be plastics that are not only made from sustainable non-petroleum sources but are also easy to recycle back into high-quality plastic.

    A new plastic made by researchers at the University of Konstanz in Germany could be just the answer. It is a type of polyethylene—the world’s most commonly used plastic—made from plant and microalgae oils, and that can be recycled with near-perfect efficiency. The recycling method, also reported in the journal Nature, requires relatively low temperatures, making it more energy-efficient, and also recovers 96 percent of the starting

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Since 1970s the pattern has reversed.
    What pattern are you talking about???
    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Capitalists have been destroyers of wealth, and culture too.
    Capitalism does not destroy wealth. It creates wealth. It is the only economic system that does.
    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Most champion growth came from hybrid systems.
    A nonsense statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Japan after WW2
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    And what does listing nations have to do with anything???
    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Steam cars with modern technology could probably change that.
    Technology does not change what a steam engine is or it's requirements.
    It takes a long time to start a steam engine. They still consume fuel. The engine is inherently more dangerous due to problems with potential water starvation while running.

    You do not get to choose what kind of car people want to drive. You are not the king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Since 1970s the pattern has reversed.
    Capitalists have been destroyers of wealth, and culture too.

    Most champion growth came from hybrid systems.

    Japan after WW2
    Francos Spanish miracle.
    FDR
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    China since 1990.

    Steam cars with modern technology could probably change that.

    Hydrogen, ammonia and fuel cells are the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by /MSG/ View Post
    It does when you're a massive coal inporter. just like how McDonalds has the beef industry cater to it.
    Nope. It doesn't. McDonalds has no leverage over the beef industry.
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