This isn’t helping to convince the hesitant

[Darth Omar]

Interesting exchange lol.

‘Why do we have to wear masks if we’ve been vaccinated?’ ‘Because the data suggests you need to keep wearing them’.

Notice that really doesn’t answer the question—and it’s a good question. Get vaccinated against Hep B, you’re done with Hep B. Nobody with a Polio vaccine worries about Polio etc. But these vaccines are different, apparently.

There’s actually an easy explanation and it seems rather obvious. Maybe it’s because mRNA vaccines aren’t really vaccines but preventative treatments. Treatments lessen the risk associated with an infection and that’s what the mRNA ‘vaccines’ seem best at.

These treatments are also specific for only the spike protein on the Covid virus so when a variant pops up with a ‘tweaked’ spike protein then the antibodies produced in response to mRNA treatments don’t ‘recognize’ the new viral antigen. So, the vaccinated have to go back to masking [however pointless, but that’s another debate].

As one of the hesitants I don’t find this to be very convincing. The data *and therefore the science* indicates I have over a 99% chance of surviving an encounter with the Bat Lady’s CCP bug. If/when my body does encounter it [assuming it hasn’t already] the antibodies produced in response are at least theoretically broader spectrum and so less likely to be ‘tricked’ by any evolutionary changes in specific spike proteins.

Now, back to my mopping.

[Hawkeye10]

They are done with carrots and they never were much into convincing, only compliance.

Now it is time for the beatings.

[BartenderElite]

How is it possible to still not understand the basics?

Vaccines don't = complete protection. People STILL get COVID. It helps w/ prevention, and it certainly helps alleviate the severity once you get it - but it doesn't prevent 100%.

One of these days, the OP will come around, and will be starting threads that encourage getting vaccinated & wearing a mask. Might take awhile, though.

[AProudLefty]

Interesting exchange lol.

‘Why do we have to wear masks if we’ve been vaccinated?’ ‘Because the data suggests you need to keep wearing them’.

Notice that really doesn’t answer the question—and it’s a good question. Get vaccinated against Hep B, you’re done with Hep B. Nobody with a Polio vaccine worries about Polio etc. But these vaccines are different, apparently.

There’s actually an easy explanation and it seems rather obvious. Maybe it’s because mRNA vaccines aren’t really vaccines but preventative treatments. Treatments lessen the risk associated with an infection and that’s what the mRNA ‘vaccines’ seem best at.

These treatments are also specific for only the spike protein on the Covid virus so when a variant pops up with a ‘tweaked’ spike protein then the antibodies produced in response to mRNA treatments don’t ‘recognize’ the new viral antigen. So, the vaccinated have to go back to masking [however pointless, but that’s another debate].

As one of the hesitants I don’t find this to be very convincing. The data *and therefore the science* indicates I have over a 99% chance of surviving an encounter with the Bat Lady’s CCP bug. If/when my body does encounter it [assuming it hasn’t already] the antibodies produced in response are at least theoretically broader spectrum and so less likely to be ‘tricked’ by any evolutionary changes in specific spike proteins.

Now, back to my mopping.

The masks are not for themselves. Basic concept.

[Darth Omar]

The masks are not for themselves. Basic concept.

So these 90% effective vaccines still allow the virus to colonize and produce spreaders?

[AProudLefty]

So these 90% effective vaccines still allow the virus to colonize and produce spreaders?

The vaccines are for people to protect themselves from getting sick. Just the same way with the flu.

[BartenderElite]

So these 90% effective vaccines still allow the virus to colonize and produce spreaders?

Way to skip my response on that.

Science.

[BartenderElite]

Just so everyone knows - COVID absolutely LOVES these threads.

[Hawkeye10]

Just so everyone knows - COVID absolutely LOVES these threads.

SARS-COV2 loves an disastrously incompetent and dishonest ruling class.

[BartenderElite]

SARS-COV2 loves an disastrously incompetent and dishonest ruling elite.

What should the ruling "elite" do? They have a vaccine which could literally end COVID next week.

But we get all kinds of threads like this.

[Concart]

How is it possible to still not understand the basics?

Vaccines don't = complete protection. People STILL get COVID. It helps w/ prevention, and it certainly helps alleviate the severity once you get it - but it doesn't prevent 100%.

One of these days, the OP will come around, and will be starting threads that encourage getting vaccinated & wearing a mask. Might take awhile, though.

You know what, he's right, I was going to quarantine and mask up, but I think I'm going to find me a Trump gathering and bond with them. I like it.

[Darth Omar]

The vaccines are for people to protect themselves from getting sick. Just the same way with the flu.

I thought it evolved to ‘if/when you get it you won’t get as sick’. I seem to recall we started out at 90% prevention.

[Jack]

The killing off of 600,000 Trumptopians would be good for America ... good for Planet Earth. I don't see the problem here. Am I missing something?

[BartenderElite]

I thought it evolved to ‘if/when you get it you won’t get as sick’. I seem to recall we started out at 90% prevention.

You mean they learned things as they went along?

Tell me, Darth. What's the point of a fence-straddling post like this? Are you DISCOURAGING vaccinations? Are you discouraging masks? Should people not do anything at all?

What's the grand plan here, science-man?

[AProudLefty]

I thought it evolved to ‘if/when you get it you won’t get as sick’. I seem to recall we started out at 90% prevention.

The masks are to prevent the virus from spreading to other people.

It's the same thing with the flu. Nothing new.

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