Prove you are Vaccinated

**SmarterthanYou** · 07-27-2021, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle

I tend to agree on the privacy issue, OTOH, I support the right of private business owners and elected officials to institute policies in compliance with the majority of voters within the limits of the Constitution. Masks, limited occupancy, leadership by example, etc, etc, etc.

Often the lower the level of government involved, like management, the better for the individual. Not always. This pandemic already shut-down a US warship. Common sense should apply. The tried and true like was done during the 1918 Pandemic. If one city requires masks and another doesn't, that's up to them. The same for the fifty States and territories. Little laboratories of democracy with some playing politics with a plague and the others using common sense.

What amazes me about the Cult of Personality dominating the Republican Party is not that they are science-deniers and hypocrites*, and not that they are pushing a lie that can only be doomed to failure**, but that they are pushing an authoritarian Federal government. Sorry, but I draw the line on those.

for a quick minute I thought you were going to throw in 'the Constitution is not a suicide pact' line.............i'm so glad you didn't.

**Doc Dutch** · 07-27-2021, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou

is that what happened to the Japanese-Americans after pearl harbor?????

and the enslavement of African-Americans. Happy now?

**SmarterthanYou** · 07-27-2021, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle

and the enslavement of African-Americans. Happy now?

apples and oranges..............slavery was practiced world wide before the 1800s. pearl harbor and the internment over a hundred years apart

the more you learn

**Doc Dutch** · 07-27-2021, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou

apples and oranges..............slavery was practiced world wide before the 1800s. pearl harbor and the internment over a hundred years apart

the more you learn

Apples and oranges like the Japanese internment 75 years ago. Who here was even alive then?

Play all the games you want. The bottom line is that you believe the US is in peril yet you won't ask to save it because you are afraid of prison, employment termination and disgrace.

**SmarterthanYou** · 07-27-2021, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle

Apples and oranges like the Japanese internment 75 years ago. Who here was even alive then?

Play all the games you want. The bottom line is that you believe the US is in peril yet you won't ask to save it because you are afraid of prison, employment termination and disgrace.

more babble from the idiot. what should I 'ask' to save it???? and what do you think I should save?????

**Doc Dutch** · 07-27-2021, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou

more babble from the idiot. what should I 'ask' to save it???? and what do you think I should save?????

Don't worry about. Just babble on about how everything is going to hell like your little buddy screams. LOL

**Into the Night** · 07-27-2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

Conflict does not equal paradox, you fucking moron. For fuck sake you spend 99% of your time here tossing out fallacy nuggets
like they were popcorn. You could at least consult a dictionary.

Dutch presented no paradox in his post. He presented an instance of values in conflict. Freedom vs. delegation of authority
That's not a paradox.

No, he presented a paradox.
You can't clear a paradox by denying it.

**Doc Dutch** · 07-27-2021, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

Conflict does not equal paradox, you fucking moron. For fuck sake you spend 99% of your time here tossing out fallacy nuggets
like they were popcorn. You could at least consult a dictionary.

Dutch presented no paradox in his post. He presented an instance of values in conflict. Freedom vs. delegation of authority
That's not a paradox.

Thanks and agreed. Sybil simply labels anything he doesn't understand as a "paradox" or "fallacy".

**Lionfish** · 07-27-2021, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

Prove You're Vaccinated: Bars, Restaurants Move Toward Vaccine Requirement (msn.com)

It's a prove you are a REAL American test.

As COVID-19 cases surge in California, many bars and restaurants outside of San Diego are requiring patrons to prove they have been vaccinated prior to being allowed inside.

Prove who you are when you vote. See how that works?

**PostmodernProphet** · 07-27-2021, 05:45 PM

the CDC stabs lib'ruls in the back.....after listening to them blame conservative non-vaxxers for the Covid surge, now the CDC (change daily council) says that people must wear masks even if vaccinated because even the vaxxed are carriers......

**PostmodernProphet** · 07-27-2021, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lionfish

Prove who you are when you vote. See how that works?

photo ID for vaxxed.......issued free to US citizens who have been vaccinated...proof of vax and proof of citizenship required...all worries about voter discrimination is solved......

**volsrock** · 07-27-2021, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

Prove You're Vaccinated: Bars, Restaurants Move Toward Vaccine Requirement (msn.com)

It's a prove you are a REAL American test.

As COVID-19 cases surge in California, many bars and restaurants outside of San Diego are requiring patrons to prove they have been vaccinated prior to being allowed inside.

How will blacks get a vaccine passport if they are too dumb to get pic ID?

**Micawber** · 07-27-2021, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by volsrock

How will blacks get a vaccine passport if they are too dumb to get pic ID?

I don't care, get one or be denied services. Highly motivating. Why did it take so long to formulate that false equivalency?
How does it make you feel knowing that every time, every single time, you get my attention I will make you
look foolish because I am clearly so much more intelligent than you? Are you a masochist?

Doing the autopsy on your dumb is something I have learned is a waste of my time. The complexity of voting habits, race and fair elections
bears no rational relationship to the notion that people could be coerced through psychological conditioning and reward into be responsible citizens when it comes to vaccination
against a global pandemic. And you, my hapless friend, are certainly not my equal and in no way one who would make such a discussion rewarding for me.

**SmarterthanYou** · 07-27-2021, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

I don't care, get one or be denied services. Highly motivating.

i'm curious....how many deaths are you willing to accept, both ours and yours, to obtain that objective?

**Taichiliberal** · 07-27-2021, 07:34 PM

Someone explain to me WTF is the point of getting these experimental treatments if those who tell you it's okay are also telling you that you can STILL become infected no matter what brand you're shot with, you can still transmit it to others. Seriously, I'd like a straight answer, because this "can I see your papers, please" is right out of some 1940's WWII or Cold War flick or some sci-fi dystopian future movie.