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    Kinzinger now talking. Became very emotional. What a day! A Republican finally condemning the terrorist attack. Shame on the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Apparently they didn't think it would be that bad.
    If they did expect it to be that bad, more people might have been killed.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/u...ot-report.html
    In a 104-page document, the inspector general, Michael A. Bolton, criticized the way the Capitol Police prepared for and responded to the mob violence on Jan. 6. The report was reviewed by The New York Times and will be the subject of a Capitol Hill hearing on Thursday.

    Mr. Bolton found that the agency’s leaders failed to adequately prepare despite explicit warnings that pro-Trump extremists posed a threat to law enforcement and civilians and that the police used defective protective equipment. He also found that the leaders ordered their Civil Disturbance Unit to refrain from using its most powerful crowd-control tools — like stun grenades — to put down the onslaught.

    The report offers the most devastating account to date of the lapses and miscalculations around the most violent attack on the Capitol in two centuries.

    Three days before the siege, a Capitol Police intelligence assessment warned of violence from supporters of President Donald J. Trump who believed his false claims that the election had been stolen. Some had even posted a map of the Capitol complex’s tunnel system on pro-Trump message boards.

    “Unlike previous postelection protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counterprotesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th,” the threat assessment said, according to the inspector general’s report. “Stop the Steal’s propensity to attract white supremacists, militia members, and others who actively promote violence may lead to a significantly dangerous situation for law enforcement and the general public alike.”
    How a Presidential Rally Turned Into a Capitol Rampage

    We analyzed the alternating perspectives of President Trump at the podium, the lawmakers inside the Capitol and a growing mob’s destruction and violence.

    But on Jan. 5, the agency wrote in a plan for the protest that there were “no specific known threats related to the joint session of Congress.” And the former chief of the Capitol Police has testified that the force had determined that the likelihood of violence was “improbable.”

    Mr. Bolton concluded such intelligence breakdowns stemmed from dysfunction within the agency and called for “guidance that clearly documents channels for efficiently and effectively disseminating intelligence information to all of its personnel.”

    That failure conspired with other lapses inside the Capitol Police force to create a dangerous situation on Jan. 6, according to his account. The agency’s Civil Disturbance Unit, which specializes in handling large groups of protesters, was not allowed to use some of its most powerful tools and techniques against the crowd, on the orders of supervisors.

    “Heavier, less-lethal weapons,” including stun grenades, “were not used that day because of orders from leadership,” Mr. Bolton wrote. Officials on duty on Jan. 6 told him that such equipment could have helped the police to “push back the rioters.”

    Mr. Bolton’s findings are scheduled to be discussed on Thursday afternoon, when he is set to testify before the House Administration Committee. He has issued two investigative reports — both classified as “law enforcement sensitive” and not publicly released — about the agency’s shortcomings on Jan. 6. He is also planning a third report.

    CNN first reported on a summary of the latest findings.

    The report — titled, “Review of the Events Surrounding the Jan. 6, 2021, Takeover of the U.S. Capitol” — reserves some of its harshest criticism for the management of the agency’s Civil Disturbance Unit, which exists to prevent tragedies like Jan. 6. Instead, nearly 140 officers were injured, and one, Officer Brian D. Sicknick, later collapsed and died after being assaulted by rioters.

    The Civil Disturbance Unit, Mr. Bolton wrote, was “operating at a decreased level of readiness as a result of a lack of standards for equipment.” In particular, Mr. Bolton focused in on an embarrassing lack of functional shields for Capitol Police officers during the riot.
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    Some of the shields that officers were equipped with during the riot “shattered upon impact” because they had been improperly stored in a trailer that was not climate-controlled, Mr. Bolton found. Others could not be used by officers in desperate need of protection because the shields were locked on a bus.

    “When the crowd became unruly, the C.D.U. platoon attempted to access the bus to distribute the shields but were unable because the door was locked,” the report said, using an abbreviation for the Civil Disturbance Unit. The platoon “was consequently required to respond to the crowd without the protection of their riot shields.”
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    Mr. Bolton also said that the agency had an out-of-date roster and staffing issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Capitol Police knew armed extremists were primed for violence at the iconic building on Jan. 6 and even provided officers with assault rifles to protect lawmakers, the acting chief acknowledged Wednesday. But the wild invasion of the Capitol was far worse than police expected, leaving them unprepared to fight it off.

    A day earlier, her predecessor as chief testified that police expected an enraged but more typical protest crowd of Donald Trump supporters. But Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman said intelligence collected ahead of the riot prompted the agency to take extraordinary measures, including the special arming of officers, intercepting radio frequencies used by the invaders and deploying spies at the Ellipse rally where President Donald Trump was sending his supporters marching to the Capitol to “fight like hell.”


    https://apnews.com/article/capitol-p...e087c071e0f8d8

    Apparently they didn't think it would be that bad.

    If they did expect it to be that bad, more people might have been killed.
    I am SO tired of traitors like dukkha excusing the behavior of their fellow traitors and trying to lay blame on someone else. Lock 'em up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    I am SO tired of traitors like dukkha excusing the behavior of their fellow traitors and trying to lay blame on someone else. Lock 'em up.
    you are SO emotional, little girl. none is excusing anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you are SO emotional, little girl. none is excusing anything
    Are you a US citizen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Are you a US citizen?
    Born and raised Baltimore boomer

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Born and raised Baltimore boomer
    You sound like an enemy of the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You sound like an enemy of the United States.
    you seriously lack historical perspective. to me you sound like a babe in the woods

    During the Cold War with USSR we kept all diplomatic ties, and kept talking.and came up with detente and SALT

    at one point the right to privacy even led to Roe v wade

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you seriously lack historical perspective. to me you sound like a babe in the woods

    During the Cold War with USSR we kept all diplomatic ties, and kept talking.and came up with detente and SALT

    at one point the right to privacy even led to Roe v wade
    What the fuck are you babbling about?! You drunk this early?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you are SO emotional, little girl. none is excusing anything
    Kinzinger is emotional as he addresses the officers before him.

    “You guys won,” he says, fighting tears. “You guys held.”

    The committee’s mission, he says, is to determine what happened. He decries political division in the US and says he wants all Americans to trust the work this committee does.

    “I’m a Republican, I’m a conservative,” he says. But he is here on a panel opposed by Republican leaders, he says, wanting to “learn the facts and defend democracy”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-politics-live

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    What the fuck are you babbling about?! You drunk this early?!
    rofl.. utterly lacking

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    rofl.. utterly lacking
    Are you drunk or fucking stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), the chairman of the select panel, vowed in his opening statement that he would not give “any fertile ground” to the “big lie” that Trump won the election, which Thompson said propelled the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    “Some people are trying to deny what happened,” Thompson said. “To whitewash it. To turn the insurrectionists into martyrs. But the whole world saw the reality of what happened on January 6th. … And all of it: for a vile, vile lie. Let’s be clear. The rioters who tried to rob us of our democracy were propelled here by a lie. As chairman of this committee, I will not give that lie any fertile ground.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-live-updates/
    this committee is a farce. their conclusions and activities means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    this committee is a farce. their conclusions and activities means nothing.
    You're a traitor. It is that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Kinzinger is emotional as he addresses the officers before him.

    “You guys won,” he says, fighting tears. “You guys held.”

    The committee’s mission, he says, is to determine what happened. He decries political division in the US and says he wants all Americans to trust the work this committee does.

    “I’m a Republican, I’m a conservative,” he says. But he is here on a panel opposed by Republican leaders, he says, wanting to “learn the facts and defend democracy”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-politics-live
    lol so Pelosi stacks the committee with #neverTrumps, throws off 2 Republicans who said they wanted to find out why police response was so poor,, and the never Trumps whine about politicization..lol

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