Hello Concart,
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Concart
I want to expand on what I posted earlier, because I want every unvaxxed person here to get this message, and get it clearly. We had a discussion about what we need to do now that we have gotten a positive test. We both have fully recovered, and have been symptom free for two days now. But out of an abundance of caution, we will continue to quarantine until we get a negative test and we will wear masks if we are around anyone. And this is the source of her white hot anger. And I mean she is PISSED. Most likely, we were infected because we were in close proximity to an unvaxxed asshole who lied about it. She then had to deal with close to two weeks of feeling like shit, culminating in a trip to the ER to get an IV, because the urgent cares were full of OTHER unvaxxed assholes. Now, SHE has to quarantine and wear a mask to protect the OTHER unvaxxed assholes who refuse to do the right thing. Everything that has happened to her with this virus is the result of vaccine refusal, dishonesty, and arrogance. She would right now go eveywhere unmasked because, in her words, 'they don't give a fuck about me, why should I give a fuck about them'. If it was just the Trumptards, I'm not sure I would disagree with her, but it isn't. There are others who could be impacted, so WE will protect your fucking stupid selfish arrogant asses. While you mock us for doing the right thing. Goddamn right we are angry. And we should be.
I'm glad you're feeling better. You have every right to be angry. I am angry just hearing about what happened to you.
I have an acquaintance who is anti-vax. Nothing to do with politics, not a Trump supporter. This individual has been anti establishment forever. Bought into the whole Y2K world ending survivalist BS. It is impossible to even conduct a rational discussion. I try to explain that the hospital admissions and deaths are almost all unvaccinated now. The response is: "That's what 'they' want you to think. They are simply labeling deaths as COVID deaths." I respond: "No, there are additional deaths over previous years. The pandemic is real. The danger is real. The need for everyone to get vaccinated is clear." And the response is back to: "That's what 'they' want you to think."
That is followed by a lot of fast-talking and subject-changing, without giving a moment to respond, spending 10 minutes talking about who-knows-what until the subject has passed. At that point, if I try to get back to the COVID discussion it comes off as rude. Of course, it's rude to dominate a discussion and control the subject, steering it towards whatever you want to talk about, disallowing anyone from getting a word in edgewise to respond to an erroneous point, but that doesn't matter. Two people being rude to one another simply goes downhill and doesn't result in a meaningful discussion.
So I drop it. Some people you just can't talk to about some things. It's pointless to try. You're not going to make any difference in a mind that is made up, unreceptive, and friendships are lost that way.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
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