Anger towards the unvaccinated rising

[Cypress]

You are arguing for people to be forced to get it. You are supporting those that want to force people to get it. You are trying to shame people to get it.

You have locked yourself in another paradox.

I really do not care if you end up comatose in an ICU bed with oxygen tubes jammed down your throat.

I care about the risk you pose to nurses, doctors, and the general public by willfully refusing to inoculate youself during the worst pandemic in a century.

[LV426]

I posted PROOF of him downplaying.

Talking about the risks isn't downplaying anything.

Trump literally said to Woodward "I always wanted to play it down."

No one forced him to make that choice.

[LV426]

More proof of what an illiterate, dishonest, triggered, low IQ partisan hack you are. :clapping:

"I always wanted to play it down", 2:18:

[LV426]

[size=3]You have a recording of me saying the virus was a hoax

I have Trump on recorded audio saying the virus is deadly.

[LV426]

[size=3]You have a recording of me saying the virus was a hoax?

Move the goalposts!!!

You didn't believe Trump said the virus was deadly...or you didn't believe him when he said it was? I'm still not sure what about the virus you do and don't believe.

[Truth Detector]

Talking about the risks isn't downplaying anything.

Trump literally said to Woodward "I always wanted to play it down."

No one forced him to make that choice.

[Truth Detector]

Move the goalposts!!!

That's what you do alright. But you're also a professional liar and a triggered loon.

You didn't believe Trump said the virus was deadly...or you didn't believe him when he said it was? I'm still not sure what about the virus you do and don't believe.

[LV426]

[size=3]That's what you do alright. But you're also a professional liar and a triggered loon.

You're the one posting the same GIFs over and over because you aren't clever enough to think of a response of your own.

[Truth Detector]

You're the one posting the same GIFs over and over because you aren't clever enough to think of a response of your own.

Wrong; I post those GIFS when you rant like a retard because they define your lunatic lie filled stupidity. Run along child. Seek professional mental health.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Concart,

I want to expand on what I posted earlier, because I want every unvaxxed person here to get this message, and get it clearly. We had a discussion about what we need to do now that we have gotten a positive test. We both have fully recovered, and have been symptom free for two days now. But out of an abundance of caution, we will continue to quarantine until we get a negative test and we will wear masks if we are around anyone. And this is the source of her white hot anger. And I mean she is PISSED. Most likely, we were infected because we were in close proximity to an unvaxxed asshole who lied about it. She then had to deal with close to two weeks of feeling like shit, culminating in a trip to the ER to get an IV, because the urgent cares were full of OTHER unvaxxed assholes. Now, SHE has to quarantine and wear a mask to protect the OTHER unvaxxed assholes who refuse to do the right thing. Everything that has happened to her with this virus is the result of vaccine refusal, dishonesty, and arrogance. She would right now go eveywhere unmasked because, in her words, 'they don't give a fuck about me, why should I give a fuck about them'. If it was just the Trumptards, I'm not sure I would disagree with her, but it isn't. There are others who could be impacted, so WE will protect your fucking stupid selfish arrogant asses. While you mock us for doing the right thing. Goddamn right we are angry. And we should be.

I'm glad you're feeling better. You have every right to be angry. I am angry just hearing about what happened to you.

I have an acquaintance who is anti-vax. Nothing to do with politics, not a Trump supporter. This individual has been anti establishment forever. Bought into the whole Y2K world ending survivalist BS. It is impossible to even conduct a rational discussion. I try to explain that the hospital admissions and deaths are almost all unvaccinated now. The response is: "That's what 'they' want you to think. They are simply labeling deaths as COVID deaths." I respond: "No, there are additional deaths over previous years. The pandemic is real. The danger is real. The need for everyone to get vaccinated is clear." And the response is back to: "That's what 'they' want you to think."

That is followed by a lot of fast-talking and subject-changing, without giving a moment to respond, spending 10 minutes talking about who-knows-what until the subject has passed. At that point, if I try to get back to the COVID discussion it comes off as rude. Of course, it's rude to dominate a discussion and control the subject, steering it towards whatever you want to talk about, disallowing anyone from getting a word in edgewise to respond to an erroneous point, but that doesn't matter. Two people being rude to one another simply goes downhill and doesn't result in a meaningful discussion.

So I drop it. Some people you just can't talk to about some things. It's pointless to try. You're not going to make any difference in a mind that is made up, unreceptive, and friendships are lost that way.

[Into the Night]

Correct. This virus has killed .18% of the population. The notion that this is deadly can only be promoted by assholes with an economy killing agenda.

Actually, it is ZERO percent. This virus does not kill.
Covid/SARS series viruses CAN induce pneumonia, which certainly CAN kill. Covid19 is no exception. This is a bacteriological infection, and can be treated if caught early enough by aggressively using antibiotics.

Masks, of course are completely ineffective against viruses. They are far too small to be filtered out by the pores in the mask. They will not prevent someone from getting infected with covid19 (or any other airborne virus).

Vaccinations do not prevent infection. They only train the body to deal with a virus more precisely and quicker when it DOES get infected. The vaccination itself is essentially a weakened form of the same virus. It replicates like usual, but slowly enough for your body to learn how to build a precise defense against it.

[Truth Detector]

Actually, it is ZERO percent. This virus does not kill.
Covid/SARS series viruses CAN induce pneumonia, which certainly CAN kill. Covid19 is no exception. This is a bacteriological infection, and can be treated if caught early enough by aggressively using antibiotics.

Masks, of course are completely ineffective against viruses. They are far too small to be filtered out by the pores in the mask. They will not prevent someone from getting infected with covid19 (or any other airborne virus).

Vaccinations do not prevent infection. They only train the body to deal with a virus more precisely and quicker when it DOES get infected. The vaccination itself is essentially a weakened form of the same virus. It replicates like usual, but slowly enough for your body to learn how to build a precise defense against it.

[SmarterthanYou]

Not at all.

then what was it, because it obviously wasn't logical, scientific, or even truthful

[LV426]

then what was it, because it obviously wasn't logical, scientific, or even truthful

Not sure what you're shitting your pants about...

COVID will be asymptomatic in most cases, but even asymptomatic people can spread COVID

The vaccine protects you from COVID, but only up to a certain point, and only against developing severe symptoms.

So you could be vaccinated and still get infected with COVID ("breakthrough cases"), but you won't develop the kind of symptoms that land you in the ER with a tube down your throat.

Unvaccinated people are at just as much risk from vaccinated people as they are from unvaccinated people, so if you want to place bets on your health and safety, don't get the vaccine, don't let your family and friends get the vaccine, and live your life as if COVID isn't real.

When your people start dropping like flies because a new variant is extra dangerous, don't act like it's some kind of Chinese conspiracy.

[Flash]

The actual quote: "This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.²