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    How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t

    The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency

    WASHINGTON — President Biden’s success at propelling an infrastructure deal past its first major hurdle this week was a vindication of his faith in bipartisanship and a repudiation of the slash-and-burn politics of his immediate predecessor, President Donald J. Trump, who tried and failed .


    Full article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...-deal.amp.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t

    The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency

    WASHINGTON — President Biden’s success at propelling an infrastructure deal past its first major hurdle this week was a vindication of his faith in bipartisanship and a repudiation of the slash-and-burn politics of his immediate predecessor, President Donald J. Trump, who tried and failed .


    Full article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...-deal.amp.html
    LOL bipartisan Biden sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t

    The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency

    WASHINGTON — President Biden’s success at propelling an infrastructure deal past its first major hurdle this week was a vindication of his faith in bipartisanship and a repudiation of the slash-and-burn politics of his immediate predecessor, President Donald J. Trump, who tried and failed .


    Full article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...-deal.amp.html
    Hope this goes through. It will provide jobs for Americans across the nation.

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    There are a minimal number of issues where bipartisanship is even plausible.

    The two major political parties share virtually NO values at this point.

    I find wishful thoughts of unity to be irrational.

    The left must think mainly of how the left can win.
    That's what the right does, and if we're not equally tunnel-visioned, we will lose badly overall.
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    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    There are a minimal number of issues where bipartisanship is even plausible.

    The two major political parties share virtually NO values at this point.

    I find wishful thoughts of unity to be irrational.

    The left must think mainly of how the left can win.
    That's what the right does, and if we're not equally tunnel-visioned, we will lose badly overall.
    The difference is one party actually promotes genuinely-held principles and policies. The other doesn't.

    The left wins when health care, infrastructure, minimum wage, civil rights advance.

    The right wins when they block the left. They define themselves by being against whatever liberals are for. They do not even try to have any of their own genuinely-held principles and policies.

    The last time I saw rightwingers passionately advocate for their own policies was in 2003, when they hollored at me that invading Iraq would be an awesome idea.

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    Biden's bipartisan infrastructure bill moves toward passage, Senate vote possible this week

    The bill would spend $1.2 trillion in total to repair roads and bridges, create a national EV charging network and provide federal funds to combat climate change.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cne...ure-bill-vote/

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    Hard to be against fixing Potholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t

    The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency

    WASHINGTON — President Biden’s success at propelling an infrastructure deal past its first major hurdle this week was a vindication of his faith in bipartisanship and a repudiation of the slash-and-burn politics of his immediate predecessor, President Donald J. Trump, who tried and failed .


    Full article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...-deal.amp.html
    Let me distill this to it's essence, Trump is a fucking asshole who everyone hates and Biden is not.
    That's the secret sauce, don't be a fucking asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Let me distill this to it's essence, Trump is a fucking asshole who everyone hates and Biden is not.
    That's the secret sauce, don't be a fucking asshole.
    Make Trump Great. All he cared about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Biden's bipartisan infrastructure bill moves toward passage, Senate vote possible this week

    The bill would spend $1.2 trillion in total to repair roads and bridges, create a national EV charging network and provide federal funds to combat climate change.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cne...ure-bill-vote/
    So, basically it's another Obama-style boondoggle using money created out of thin air that'll do nothing but sap the economy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    So, basically it's another Obama-style boondoggle using money created out of thin air that'll do nothing but sap the economy....
    our infrastructure is in need of serious upgrade.

    Infrastructure spending is the best kind of economic stimulus.

    China is not debating this. They have spent 30 years spending as much money as they can on upgrading their infrastructure, technology, education. And that is how they are catching up to us and how they intend to pass us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    our infrastructure is in need of serious upgrade.

    Infrastructure spending is the best kind of economic stimulus.

    China is not debating this. They have spent 30 years spending as much money as they can on upgrading their infrastructure, technology, education. And that is how they are catching up to us and how they intend to pass us.
    the problem isnt the infrastructure bill. it's the reconciliation $3.5TRILLION attached to it
    Pelosi said she wont pass either one alone -only in tandem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    our infrastructure is in need of serious upgrade.
    Most of it is in acceptable condition. This is true, despite what groups like the ASCE says.



    How so you ask? Consider this: If we take a D as a sign of in imminent collapse or danger, why aren't there regular accidents and disasters associated with those particular areas of infrastructure? For example, the ASCE says "Aviation" is rated as a D. Yet, we're not seeing regular airplane crashes, nor are we seeing the closure of airports due to material issues, etc. It certainly doesn't appear that aviation is in imminent danger of systematic failure which a D grade would suggest.

    Instead, I see a vested interest giving poorer grades in the self-interest of getting more funding and work to their members.
    Infrastructure spending is the best kind of economic stimulus.
    Not necessarily. Tax and regulation cuts are in many's opinion. So your position here is highly arguable.

    China is not debating this. They have spent 30 years spending as much money as they can on upgrading their infrastructure, technology, education. And that is how they are catching up to us and how they intend to pass us.
    And, much of their infrastructure is poorly built. As I like to tell people:

    You can have it:

    FAST
    CHEAP
    RIGHT

    Pick two.

    Everybody always picks fast and cheap expecting fast and right. When that fails to happen they get upset and invoke another rule I have: There's never time and money to do it right, but there's always time and money to do it over.

    This bill for the most part is nothing but a big drain on the economy in terms of inflation.

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    #1 You cannot get to the batter's box on getting things done if you start out being a grade A asshole in chief, outwardly and openly staging yourself
    as the president of only a sliver of the USA population while giving the middle finger, insulting, degrading most of it, as well as the
    entire planet. Sure your sliver will lub lub lub your ass to death. But you will lose. Will Biden do great things? Who knows, but he is at least smart enough not to violate rule #1.
    To succeed at all you MUST love ALL America.

    Trump was a fucking moron and the right lost their god damned minds over that moron. Monkey see, monkey do.

    "Hey, let's bludgeon and bully our way into grabbing every god damned thing in the world we dreamed of, fuck them all. Let's pretend they have no power"

    Are you people insane? There was/is no way we will ever let that happen. (more incendiary commentary omitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t

    The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency

    WASHINGTON — President Biden’s success at propelling an infrastructure deal past its first major hurdle this week was a vindication of his faith in bipartisanship and a repudiation of the slash-and-burn politics of his immediate predecessor, President Donald J. Trump, who tried and failed .


    Full article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...-deal.amp.html
    President Biden was elected as a trusted leader to repair the atrocities that the lawlessly hacked in swine of a fake president tRump and his shithole insurgency created.

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