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    I suspect because it's EARLy in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and
    YEAH!!! THOSE "STUPID" BLACKS AND HISPANICS, WHO HAVE THE HIGHEST % OF UNVACCINATED PEOPLE OF ANY AMERICAN DEMOGRAPHIC....HILARIOUS HOW THE ALWAYS-LYING-LEFT KEEPS TRYING TO BLAME "TRUMP SUPPORTERS".


    MEANWHILE, FAUCI HAS BVEEN CAUGHT LYING SO MANY TIMES IT ISN'T EVEN FUNNY ANYMORE...LIKE HOW HE JUST DENIED THAT GLARINGLY OBVIOUS "GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH" WAS WHAT IT CLEARLY WAS THAT WAS FUNDED BY FAUCI.....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    They are the vast majority. That is simply a fact. Itís supported by every single metric. I think there are ways to reach the vaccine hesitant. I do not know how to reach the vaccine defiant. And based on the numbers I calculate that there are somewhere around 30 million adult Republicans most under 40 who are defiant and that group is by far the largest unvaccinated demographic. If they continue to refuse we are screwed. I donít see how we reach them. They think trump won. What are we supposed to do? I got nothing. Saying other groups are hesitant doesnít fix by far the biggest problem.
    Making up random numbers and using them as data is a fallacy, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    No, that is NOT a "simple fact". You have to stop letting fear and those who exploit it guide you. Yes, people are dying from a new virus....but it is NOT the black death, as less than 1% of the population have actually died from this. What you see is bad science.....confining people in doors in community bldgs. spreads any type of virus like wildfire...anyone who spent their college years in a dorm knows this. Then there is NO suggestions or guide lines to treat initial symptoms at home...only a grudging admittance that the Chinese found Vitamin C to be helpful..... instead, you're just to see if you get worse, then go the hospital to see if you get the point of going to the ICU. And the topper is that the PRC is NOT an accurate measurement for infection...hell, it wasn't designed to that! The man who invented the test said so for decades prior to his death.

    The politicization, anti-gov't types, etc., is like a coup of panicky chickens going in every direction. People need to stop and think.....check out my thread "Covid Follies #16".



    Yes it is a fact. Are you going to reject math now? Lol at you. You anti vaxxers are insane. So will three and a half million dead Americans get your attention or no? That’s what it will take to get you to take this seriously? In fucking believable.
    If you're going to talk math, then do a little research as to raw numbers of people actually being hospitalized long term or going critical with the new variant, which is being touted as a possible second deadly wave. Also, you may want to check into what actually makes a "case".....as being tested positive and/or spending a few days in the hospital without going to the ICU is NOT a case. And once again for the cheap seats....THE PRC TEST IS NOT AN ACCURATE MEASUREMENT FOR INFECTION, AS IT WAS NOT EVEN DESIGNED FOR SUCH. The Noble prize winner who invented it, Dr. Kary Mullis, kept telling the world this for years....pity the MSM chose not to listen.'

    As I've stated before, I'm not an "anti-vaxxer".... I'm anti bad science.

    Oh, and FYI...your math's a little off https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    If you're going to talk math, then do a little research as to raw numbers of people actually being hospitalized long term or going critical with the new variant, which is being touted as a possible second deadly wave. Also, you may want to check into what actually makes a "case".....as being tested positive and/or spending a few days in the hospital without going to the ICU is NOT a case. And once again for the cheap seats....THE PRC TEST IS NOT AN ACCURATE MEASUREMENT FOR INFECTION, AS IT WAS NOT EVEN DESIGNED FOR SUCH. The Noble prize winner who invented it, Dr. Kary Mullis, kept telling the world this for years....pity the MSM chose not to listen.'

    As I've stated before, I'm not an "anti-vaxxer".... I'm anti bad science.

    Oh, and FYI...your math's a little off https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
    A case is a positive test. There are 350 million people in the US. I think I trust scientists to know science over some chump on a message board. Hospitalizations and deaths are lagging indicators and are not the only effects of the virus. In other words literally everything you posted is wrong. You are an anti vaxxer parroting right wing talking points. A complete waste of time. Have fun in the ICU and take comfort as you struggle to breath that itís not the Black Death and it hasnít killed millions in the US yet. Just you. Your stupidity and ignorance hurts everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. ďOne of the last things they do before theyíre intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that Iím sorry, but itís too late.Ē Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and
    Tell us all sparky, in the US, who and what is the largest race of individuals that are not vaccinated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    If you're going to talk math, then do a little research as to raw numbers of people actually being hospitalized long term or going critical with the new variant, which is being touted as a possible second deadly wave. Also, you may want to check into what actually makes a "case".....as being tested positive and/or spending a few days in the hospital without going to the ICU is NOT a case. And once again for the cheap seats....THE PRC TEST IS NOT AN ACCURATE MEASUREMENT FOR INFECTION, AS IT WAS NOT EVEN DESIGNED FOR SUCH. The Noble prize winner who invented it, Dr. Kary Mullis, kept telling the world this for years....pity the MSM chose not to listen.'

    As I've stated before, I'm not an "anti-vaxxer".... I'm anti bad science.

    Oh, and FYI...your math's a little off https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    A case is a positive test. There are 350 million people in the US. I think I trust scientists to know science over some chump on a message board. Hospitalizations and deaths are lagging indicators and are not the only effects of the virus. In other words literally everything you posted is wrong. You are an anti vaxxer parroting right wing talking points. A complete waste of time. Have fun in the ICU and take comfort as you struggle to breath that it’s not the Black Death and it hasn’t killed millions in the US yet. Just you. Your stupidity and ignorance hurts everyone.
    You're contradicting yourself. If "...Hospitalizations and deaths are lagging indicators and are not the only effects of the virus", then how the hell do you then claim that a "case" is a positive test, when many of those DO NOT require hospitalization & treatment? Remember, the PRC was NOT DESIGNED TO determine infection rates and "cases" as you determine here....which is why you have all those false positives and negatives. So by your "logic", you have a dubious test result that MIGHT put you in the hospital OR send you home with the option of getting one of the offered "vaccine" shots, which is then a "case".

    You don't even have the intellectual maturity to admit to being wrong regarding your initial death toll claim.

    Sorry, but that dog of yours just won't fly.

    The sheer convoluted "logic" and hyperbole of your screed is just another example of proud, willful ignorance. Try critical thinking for a change. Couldn't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    Tell us all sparky, in the US, who and what is the largest race of individuals that are not vaccinated?
    You're a prime example of the OP subject title:

    For your education:

    Both unvaccinated and vaccinated respondents were disproportionately likely to be white (56% unvaccinated versus 64% vaccinated), based in the suburbs (56% unvaccinated versus 52% vaccinated) and have health insurance (76% unvaccinated versus 88% vaccinated).

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=6c7cd51d42cc
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    1 percent of 350,000,000 is 3 1/2 million corpses. I see 660K dead online search....If we don't care about that, when do we start using our thinkingcaps, Taicheap?????You must believe the 600,000 dead in the civil war was a bloody nose...a trifle.More importantly, WTF IS your point? Being disagreeable That's all I detect

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    "America's main export now is stupidity (paraphrase)" Douglas Murray Fox Nation 7/26
    Where the fuck are the men?

    America is committing suicide....how did men fail this badly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    1 percent of 350,000,000 is 3 1/2 million corpses. I see 660K dead online search....If we don't care about that, when do we start using our thinkingcaps, Taicheap?????You must believe the 600,000 dead in the civil war was a bloody nose...a trifle.More importantly, WTF IS your point? Being disagreeable That's all I detect
    1. doctors are given the discretion to determine cause of death as due to a pre-condition or covid related. This means you previously have been hospitalized for congestive heart problems, but this time, you test positive for Covid (a dubious result as the PRC was NOT designed for such diagnosis as it's creator stated numerous times). So the doctor says that your case is "covid-related", and if you die, it's due to Covid. That's bad science.

    2. Each year tens of thousands die of annual flu.....nowhere near the hysteria from the medical community or the bad procedural mandates. Taking an experimental treatment and then telling people it might not work is not the answer. Hell, the medical powers that be are not even doing the following: https://prn.fm/can-natural-botanical...t-coronavirus/

    why don't you f***ing pay attention to what I am stating and deal with it, unless you can disprove what I put down.
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    Hello signalmankenneth,

    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. ďOne of the last things they do before theyíre intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that Iím sorry, but itís too late.Ē Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and
    ""I hold their hand and tell them that Iím sorry, but itís too late.Ē"

    That's what people are risking when they decide to take a 'wait and see' approach to getting the vaccine.

    They might think they can just give in at the end if the going gets too rough.

    It doesn't work that way.

    It's not a medicine or a treatment.

    It is a preventative.

    It builds immunity slowly. It has to be administered before the individual contracts the disease. After that, it is a matter of weeks before the maximum immunity is achieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. ďOne of the last things they do before theyíre intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that Iím sorry, but itís too late.Ē Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and
    Blacks are really stupid..Mush much less vaccinated than whites

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    Hello Concart,

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Iím at a loss. I believe this is a cult. The things they believe are so bizarre and fantastic that I canít believe a thinking person could buy into it. Microchips? Poison vaccines? Ballot eating chickens? Fauci as some evil overlord? How do you actually believe this stuff and how do I overcome it. They appear to consider ignorance as a badge of honor. They want to shove their ĎDonít Tread on Meí flags down our throats. If Ďthe libsí say black they say white. How exactly do we break through that? I have basically given up. I just want to mitigate the damage these idiots are doing but right now the damage is massive. They are destroying the country from voting rights to the economy to public health. You canít reach people who would literally kill you if they could. Itís not possible. And believe me they would kill you. Iím not exaggerating.
    The way to 'get through' is to remain calm and patiently state the truth. It doesn't work right away, so you'll never know how effective it was. And you'll probably never hear it if you got through to someone.

    But if your words are poignant enough, they'll stick. One day, a right winger who read them will realize how absurd their position has been and it will dawn on them that you were right. You'll never know when that happens or what exactly made the difference, or why it took so long.

    That does happen. Trump has lost support, not gained it. Some have given up on him.

    We'll never get through to most of them. People don't like to admit it when they are wrong. Peer pressure carries inertia. But sometimes people change groups, change settings, get new sets of peers, begin to see things differently. Especially if they move or change jobs, get divorced, etc.

    Words matter.
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