Guno צְבִי (07-26-2021)
Exactly. Two completely different problems. Black people have a basic mistrust that needs to be overcome, and I believe it can be. Not Republicans. They are ignorant and proud of it. They are defiant. If the libs want them to get the vaccine, they damn well will not. It's a death cult. I don't know how to reach a death cult and deprogram them. That's what it's going to take.
Guno צְבִי (07-26-2021)
Not to derail the discussion but I’m curious where you got those numbers for total Democrats and Republicans. We know Biden got 81 million votes and Trump 74m.
Where are you getting the 107 and 97 million number from for adult Democrats and Republicans respectively? (Not to mention just because one votes for a Presidential candidate doesn’t necessarily mean they are a member of that party.)
It's as good a measure as any. I took the total adult US population (209 million) and multiplied by the percentage that each candidate received. Since that didn't add up to quite 100% I only get 204 million. It's close enough for this exercise unless you want to debate those. Obviously we need to count non-voters since they can still be vaccinated. Including independents doesn't make a lot of sense, and I don't really have a breakdown for that demographic anyway. I think it's fair to assume Trump/Biden is a pretty accurate representation and that is backed by the stats, Trump counties have lower vaccination rates than Biden counties.
Reading a pew research report from last year shows more voters are registered as independent than either Republican or Democratic. Now just because one is registered as independent doesn’t mean they can’t be or aren’t partisan or right or left leaning. But places like this are a bubble. Not everyone who is registered to vote follows politics closely or has any idea what’s really going on.
PoliTalker (07-27-2021)
The deprogramming could be easy. All it requires is for their leaders to be disincentivized from selling lies and incentivized to being sane, responsible people.
The lemming cult would fall in line quickly, I think.
How hard to say a vaccine is safe and effective (truth) instead of making it a battle cry of freedumb, the thinnest of rationales given the cost benefits.
Fox News and their leaders should be held accountable for the carnage caused by their lies.
I’m a registered libertarian, not sure if that’s considered independent. Personally I think not. HOWEVER I had the misfortune of growing up in a democratic crime ridden shithole of a city and I saw firsthand the death, destruction , corruption and third world politics of the place.
So inherently I tend to be anti-democrat . But they do have policies I agree with. Like most folks I have one issue that’s most important and for me that’s violent crime . I had three people close to me in N.O. murdered and I find dems to be soft on violet criminals. AFAIC, they have blood on their hands.
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"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (07-26-2021), no worries (07-29-2021), PoliTalker (07-27-2021)
Link? Agreed Carnegie's book was excellent.
OTOH, clearly the Republican party has politicized a pandemic so much that wearing a mask is considered a vote for Biden. It's fucking ridiculous.
I'm a big supporter of Evolution in Action; if people want to kill themselves, let them. We can offer alternative solutions, but if they really want to do it, then it's best to just let them go.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is a fucking moron. Whether she is reelected is up to the citizens in her district just like there other 434 reps.
IMO, the responses by certain people isn't about individualism, but selfishness to the point of being anti-American.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Guno צְבִי (07-26-2021), ThatOwlWoman (07-26-2021)
What are you going to do about it? NOTHING!** LOL
How many keyboards does a keyboard warrior loser like you go through each year?
**Coincidentally, that's also the same answer for questions like "What is your career potential?" and "What differences will you see in your life in over the next five years?"
Only cucks and cunts type in all caps. Jus' sayin'.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Guno צְבִי (07-26-2021), no worries (07-29-2021), ThatOwlWoman (07-26-2021)
I agree, as long as while they're doing it, they aren't endangering others, and they aren't expecting us to pay for it. That's why I've always favored helmet and seatbelt laws, besides the life-saving properties of those things. People who end up needing lifelong care that they can't pay for because they're too stupid to buckle up or put on a brain bucket shouldn't expect the rest of us to cover the hundreds of thousands of dollars it will cost to keep them "alive."
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (07-26-2021), Guno צְבִי (07-26-2021)
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