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    Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and

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    The only emotions we can use to get through to the knuckleheaded Reichtards are anger and hate. They don't respond to anything else. Hence Trump.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The only emotions we can use to get through to the knuckleheaded Reichtards are anger and hate. They don't respond to anything else. Hence Trump.
    Maybe I read too much Dale Carnegie as a kid but I find it difficult to believe that would be an effective technique. (The Atlantic has a good article out about the various reasons different people, from all walks of life, haven't gotten the vaccination. Just to me, screaming at them and calling them names isn't likely to going to change their position.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Maybe I read too much Dale Carnegie as a kid but I find it difficult to believe that would be an effective technique. (The Atlantic has a good article out about the various reasons different people, from all walks of life, haven't gotten the vaccination. Just to me, screaming at them and calling them names isn't likely to going to change their position.)
    I’m at a loss. I believe this is a cult. The things they believe are so bizarre and fantastic that I can’t believe a thinking person could buy into it. Microchips? Poison vaccines? Ballot eating chickens? Fauci as some evil overlord? How do you actually believe this stuff and how do I overcome it. They appear to consider ignorance as a badge of honor. They want to shove their ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ flags down our throats. If ‘the libs’ say black they say white. How exactly do we break through that? I have basically given up. I just want to mitigate the damage these idiots are doing but right now the damage is massive. They are destroying the country from voting rights to the economy to public health. You can’t reach people who would literally kill you if they could. It’s not possible. And believe me they would kill you. I’m not exaggerating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Maybe I read too much Dale Carnegie as a kid but I find it difficult to believe that would be an effective technique. (The Atlantic has a good article out about the various reasons different people, from all walks of life, haven't gotten the vaccination. Just to me, screaming at them and calling them names isn't likely to going to change their position.)
    They literally think it’s cuz Trump or cuz Fox.

    There’s no reasoning with them.
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    That's OK Concart. I want them dead back. And odds are greatly in my favor since they don't vaccinate, don't exercise, have poor hygiene,
    eat poorly and seldom visit doctors or dentists.

    This is Darwinian selection. Republicans, PLEASE DO NOT VACCINATE! Fuck, go hemorrhage your stupid brains out your eyes with ebola already. Just get on with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    I’m at a loss. I believe this is a cult. The things they believe are so bizarre and fantastic that I can’t believe a thinking person could buy into it. Microchips? Poison vaccines? Ballot eating chickens? Fauci as some evil overlord? How do you actually believe this stuff and how do I overcome it. They appear to consider ignorance as a badge of honor. They want to shove their ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ flags down our throats. If ‘the libs’ say black they say white. How exactly do we break through that? I have basically given up. I just want to mitigate the damage these idiots are doing but right now the damage is massive. They are destroying the country from voting rights to the economy to public health. You can’t reach people who would literally kill you if they could. It’s not possible. And believe me they would kill you. I’m not exaggerating.
    Here's the Atlantic article. Not everyone who is unvaccinated is a Trump supporter. When we try to lump everyone and everything into political partisanship it becomes far less ineffective imo because tribalism trumps all.



    America Is Getting Unvaccinated People All Wrong

    They’re not all anti-vaxxers, and treating them as such is making things worse.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ti-vax/619523/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Here's the Atlantic article. Not everyone who is unvaccinated is a Trump supporter. When we try to lump everyone and everything into political partisanship it becomes far less ineffective imo because tribalism trumps all.


    They’re not all anti-vaxxers, and treating them as such is making things worse.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ti-vax/619523/
    They are the vast majority. That is simply a fact. It’s supported by every single metric. I think there are ways to reach the vaccine hesitant. I do not know how to reach the vaccine defiant. And based on the numbers I calculate that there are somewhere around 30 million adult Republicans most under 40 who are defiant and that group is by far the largest unvaccinated demographic. If they continue to refuse we are screwed. I don’t see how we reach them. They think trump won. What are we supposed to do? I got nothing. Saying other groups are hesitant doesn’t fix by far the biggest problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The only emotions we can use to get through to the knuckleheaded Reichtards are anger and hate. They don't respond to anything else. Hence Trump.
    Nobody surpasses me in anger or hate, and you can use them to get through to me, but I'm nothing like a Reichtard.

    I know that I don't pass the "Woke" test, but in terms of REAL socio-economic issues, I'm well to the left of Scranton Joey and the HNIC for whom he served as VP..
    I think they were both good guys. I voted for them. But they're nothing special. Not like Bernie and Liz.

    Trump isn't even of any use as target practice, the fat ass that he is. It would be like trying to shoot water from a boat.
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    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Here's the Atlantic article. Not everyone who is unvaccinated is a Trump supporter. When we try to lump everyone and everything into political partisanship it becomes far less ineffective imo because tribalism trumps all.



    America Is Getting Unvaccinated People All Wrong

    They’re not all anti-vaxxers, and treating them as such is making things worse.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ti-vax/619523/
    You’re trying to reason with fanatics who think ‘we’re all gonna die’ if everyone isn’t vaccinated.

    Everything about it gets filtered through their ridiculous partisan binary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
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    Which is why we soundly voted out #TheTangerineTyrant. You're welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Nobody surpasses me in anger or hate, and you can use them to get through to me, but I'm nothing like a Reichtard.

    I know that I don't pass the "Woke" test, but in terms of REAL socio-economic issues, I'm well to the left of Scranton Joey and the HNIC for whom he served as VP..
    I think they were both good guys. I voted for them. But they're nothing special. Not like Bernie and Liz.

    Trump isn't even of any use as target practice, the fat ass that he is. It would be like trying to shoot water from a boat.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    They are the vast majority. That is simply a fact. It’s supported by every single metric. I think there are ways to reach the vaccine hesitant. I do not know how to reach the vaccine defiant. And based on the numbers I calculate that there are somewhere around 30 million adult Republicans most under 40 who are defiant and that group is by far the largest unvaccinated demographic. If they continue to refuse we are screwed. I don’t see how we reach them. They think trump won. What are we supposed to do? I got nothing. Saying other groups are hesitant doesn’t fix by far the biggest problem.
    To me it’s human psychology. Having people on the left screaming and yelling and calling names to those on the right who haven’t gotten vaccinated probably isn’t going to move the needle. In fact it likely makes them dig in even more to not want to do it. So while I’m sure it feels good to say to them I hope you die and you’re unpatriotic and you’re stupid etc. it’s not going to win people over to what you want done.

    It’s why they say they want local leaders in the black community reaching out to get people to overcome their hesitation to get vaccinated. If someone is going to change the mind of people on the right it’s going to come from people on the right.

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