The Stupid Is Killing Us

[Taichiliberal]

Someone explain to me WTF is the point of getting these experimental treatments if those who tell you it's okay are also telling you that you can STILL become infected no matter what brand you're shot with, you can still transmit it to others. Seriously, I'd like a straight answer, because this "can I see your papers, please" is right out of some 1940's WWII or Cold War flick or some sci-fi dystopian future movie.

[no worries]

Someone explain to me WTF is the point of getting these experimental treatments if those who tell you it's okay are also telling you that you can STILL become infected no matter what brand you're shot with, you can still transmit it to others. Seriously, I'd like a straight answer, because this "can I see your papers, please" is right out of some 1940's WWII or Cold War flick or some sci-fi dystopian future movie.

Getting vaccinated will keep people out of the hospital, so far and keep people from dying, so far.

Covid is a virus, viruses mutate, every year the flu vaccine is slightly different because the flu mutates, it will be the same with covid, it will mutate, the current vaccine may not even work at all, 3-5 years from now.

People have no issues with receiving the required vaccinations for school, they require a doctor's "papers".

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Someone explain to me WTF is the point of getting these experimental treatments if those who tell you it's okay are also telling you that you can STILL become infected no matter what brand you're shot with, you can still transmit it to others. Seriously, I'd like a straight answer, because this "can I see your papers, please" is right out of some 1940's WWII or Cold War flick or some sci-fi dystopian future movie.

Getting vaccinated will keep people out of the hospital, so far and keep people from dying, so far.

Covid is a virus, viruses mutate, every year the flu vaccine is slightly different because the flu mutates, it will be the same with covid, it will mutate, the current vaccine may not even work at all, 3-5 years from now.

People have no issues with receiving the required vaccinations for school, they require a doctor's "papers".

Um, NO! There is NO clinical study that proves your first sentence. And like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense.

Your second sentence is just repeating moot points that does not validate your first sentence or change what I just stated above.

Your third sentence is not true. Some examples: https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/c...s-16194270.php
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/covi...or-school.html

[Nordberg]

The rightys who are in the hospital begging for help, wish they would have gotten the vaccine. They are suffering and dying. They figure out once they are in trouble that it would have free and so easy to avoid it You can watch them hook you on hospital machines to save your life and then ask for the vaccine. Only it is too late.
This is simple. Get the fucking vaccine. Do yourself a favor.
The vaccine will protect over 90 percent. If you do get it, it will be a low-level survivable case. How can that not make semse?

[gemini104104]

Amid rising COVID cases, falling vaccination rates and a persistent flood of crackpot hogwash a timid media terms "misinformation" - WE WILL NOT COMPLY! - its bone-headed perpetrators just keep spewing even when, as experts predict, by fall the surging Delta variant could kill 850 of their own irredeemable peeps a day in what has become "a pandemic of the unvaccinated." In Alabama, which has the country's lowest vaccination rate, a doctor describes seeing young people dying. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she says. "I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” Still, the idiot masses head out to protest hospitals requiring vaccines for employees with balmy signs like "Medical Dictatorship," "I Call My Own Shots," "No to Socialism," and "Remember the Nuremberg Code." Umm. They probably eat up Marjorie Taylor-Greene's online rants - COVID is a bioweapon, STOP MASKING CHILDREN!, Indict Pelosi! - or they did until she got suspended for saying vaccines don't work and COVID poses no threat to anyone under 65 and not obese, even as cases in Georgia are up 193%. She was so mad at "COMMUNIST TWITTER" she held a presser where she refused to say if she'd been vaccinated, claimed the question "is a violation of my HIPAA rights" - not - and

kids have died of COVID. Actually, one just had, three days before, in her own district. His obituary said Wyatt, Gibson, five years old, liked to strum a toy guitar and sing, "I love donkeys and I love dogs." Declared his grieving father, "I feel like I've lost my best friend."

https://buzzflash.com/articles/the-stupid-is-killing-us

Actually the stupid are killing themselves at enabling their death when there are opportunities to avoid that. The majority at over 200 million doing the right thing to protect themselves from this virus and its variants are the ones who should live and prosper. This is while tRump's brainwashed cult followers and anti vaxers and their GQPer leaders enable their death. Hopefully extraordinary measures will activate in order to admonish this GQP/GOP and tRump threat with a certain type of force field of its own, and to which I believe is a imminent threat and probably worse than any foreign threat.

[Nordberg]

They literally think it’s cuz Trump or cuz Fox.

There’s no reasoning with them.

They are literally a big reason for non-vaxxers They are most of it. There are blacks who have a distrust of the medical profession stemming from Tuskegee. That is sad because it was long ago and does not factor now.
There are people who are just afraid of shots.
But Covid is much bigger than that. We can reach herd if the rest of us do the right thing. People are looking for excises. They may pay bigly.,maybe with their lives.
The virus is not affected by beliefs.

[no worries]

Um, NO! There is NO clinical study that proves your first sentence. And like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense.

Your second sentence is just repeating moot points that does not validate your first sentence or change what I just stated above.

Your third sentence is not true. Some examples: https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/c...s-16194270.php
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/covi...or-school.html

"Getting vaccinated will keep people out of the hospital, so far and keep people from dying, so far".

Don't need a "clinical" study to prove that, virtually everyone in hospitals and dying are the unvaccinated.

"like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense".

Guess you don't know the meaning of the term, vaccinated.
The administration of vaccines is called vaccination.


Vaccines sometimes cure diseases, sometime they just make you immune, look at the flu, does a vaccine cure the flu?

A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Um, NO! There is NO clinical study that proves your first sentence. And like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense.

Your second sentence is just repeating moot points that does not validate your first sentence or change what I just stated above.

Your third sentence is not true. Some examples: https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/c...s-16194270.php
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/covi...or-school.html

"Getting vaccinated will keep people out of the hospital, so far and keep people from dying, so far".

Don't need a "clinical" study to prove that, virtually everyone in hospitals and dying are the unvaccinated.

"like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense".

Guess you don't know the meaning of the term, vaccinated.
The administration of vaccines is called vaccination.


Vaccines sometimes cure diseases, sometime they just make you immune, look at the flu, does a vaccine cure the flu?

A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.

You seem to think that doubling down on talking points and assertions similar to your first round justify each other.

It doesn't, as I factually disproved your first round. In order for you to stick to your guns, you have to ignore the FACT that the PCR test was never designed for the diagnostic tool being now used. It's creator, the late Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis spent years telling the scientific community exactly that. Also, NIH guidelines allow doctors the "choice" of labeling deaths due to either pre-existing conditions or "covid related". So a patient with a history of chronic heart disease comes into the hospital, and tests positive for Covid. He then dies and the doctor list cause of death as Covid even though there was no evidence of rampant infection. Remember, a positive test result doesn't automatically mean deterioration into severe flu symptoms or loss of taste, etc. That is a documented fact.

As for labeling this new therapy as a vaccination, I guess you are unaware that all these "vaccines" are STILL experimental because the FDA has yet to say otherwise.
I guess you are also unaware of the debate among the medical community. Here, for your education read the following carefully and comprehensively as it dispels the insinuation of your last 2 moot sentences:

Biosecurity risks associated with vaccine platform technologies

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7904460/

[Concart]

Um, NO! There is NO clinical study that proves your first sentence. And like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense.

Your second sentence is just repeating moot points that does not validate your first sentence or change what I just stated above.

Your third sentence is not true. Some examples: https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/c...s-16194270.php
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/covi...or-school.html

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7018e1.htm

Clinical trials demonstrate vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization. You are wrong about literally everything you have said.

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Um, NO! There is NO clinical study that proves your first sentence. And like I said, if the FDA and CDC are telling you even if you get vaccinated you can STILL contract the disease and transmit it to others. So your first sentence makes no sense.

Your second sentence is just repeating moot points that does not validate your first sentence or change what I just stated above.

Your third sentence is not true. Some examples: https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/c...s-16194270.php
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/covi...or-school.html

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7018e1.htm

Clinical trials demonstrate vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization. You are wrong about literally everything you have said.

As they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Here's how I tried to school your like minded brethren on the subject. I suggest you read everything AND the link before you retort with another mantra. https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...91#post4576591

[Concart]

As they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Here's how I tried to school your like minded brethren on the subject. I suggest you read everything AND the link before you retort with another mantra. https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...91#post4576591

I don't need to reread your bullshit. Because that's what it is. You bald faced lied about no clinical studies indicating that the vaccines worked against hospitalizations. You have zero credibility on the topic.

[Taichiliberal]

The rightys who are in the hospital begging for help, wish they would have gotten the vaccine. They are suffering and dying. They figure out once they are in trouble that it would have free and so easy to avoid it You can watch them hook you on hospital machines to save your life and then ask for the vaccine. Only it is too late.
This is simple. Get the fucking vaccine. Do yourself a favor.
The vaccine will protect over 90 percent. If you do get it, it will be a low-level survivable case. How can that not make semse?

Not quite....check out my posts on this thread. Check out my thread entitled "Covid Follies #16".

[Concart]

Not quite....check out my posts on this thread. Check out my thread entitled "Covid Follies #16".

You are not an authority. Quite the opposite.

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
As they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Here's how I tried to school your like minded brethren on the subject. I suggest you read everything AND the link before you retort with another mantra. https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...91#post4576591

I don't need to reread your bullshit. Because that's what it is. You bald faced lied about no clinical studies indicating that the vaccines worked against hospitalizations. You have zero credibility on the topic.

Your proud, willful ignorance and hissy fit is no substitute for rational, fact based debate. Had you the intellectual honesty and courage to read what I wrote, you would find that your link leaves out two crucial details that are the underpinnings of it's declaration. I fabricate nothing. I just use ALL the knowledge and facts made available over the years and apply them to the situation at hand ... a progressive logic, if you will, coupled with critical thinking.

Now, run-a-long and stamp your widdle feet and recite whatever makes you feel like a good little policy wonk.

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Not quite....check out my posts on this thread. Check out my thread entitled "Covid Follies #16".

You are not an authority. Quite the opposite.

Ahh, so now you're a child following me around with this mantra of yours? As the chronology of the posts shows, I NEVER implied, asserted or claimed to be such.
What I do admit to is actually RESEARCHING ALL MATERIAL AVAILABLE, thus allowing me to point out the contradictory status of the status quo claims and mandates. Pity you don't have the stones or brains to actual debate the issue. Carry on.