"The bicycle is the slow death of the planet"

[reagansghost]

Question... Do those bicyclists ride when there's like a foot of snow on the ground and a blizzard outside? Do they ride to work (assuming they have a job) in a torrential downpour? How do they do something like bring home ten bags of groceries? Or, is it their lifestyle to live in a high rise apartment and eat out all the time?

I knew most MAGAdopes would miss the point entirely

btw, no one is saying bicycles should or will replace all autos, only that they provide clean transportation

how many times do people take a short drive to work in nice weather, or go to the local convenience store, or go visit a friend, or...etc etc etc in a car when they could bicycle and get healthy, plus save money?

more bicycle use and less reliance on ICE's would be a tremendous help

of course this country is full of regressive captives of big oil like you and will never assist in the effort to reduce carbon emissions, we all know that

[moon]

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[T. A. Gardner]

I knew most MAGAdopes would miss the point entirely

btw, no one is saying bicycles should or will replace all autos, only that they provide clean transportation

how many times do people take a short drive to work in nice weather, or go to the local convenience store, or go visit a friend, or...etc etc etc in a car when they could bicycle and get healthy, plus save money?

more bicycle use and less reliance on ICE's would be a tremendous help

of course this country is full of regressive captives of big oil like you and will never assist in the effort to reduce carbon emissions, we all know that

I'd think that'd depend on where you live. For much of the US, half the year it's hot and often humid. The other half is wet, cold, even frigid. "Nice" weather is the rarity in many parts of the country.
Then there's a time issue involved. Just as with current fixed route public transportation, bicycling requires more time--substantially more time in many cases--than using a vehicle. That translates to a higher opportunity cost that might make it undesirable.

On the whole, just as public transit is often not the best, or even a viable, option, bicycling is equally high cost low return for most people. That's why most people don't use a bicycle.

[reagansghost]

I'd think that'd depend on where you live. For much of the US, half the year it's hot and often humid. The other half is wet, cold, even frigid. "Nice" weather is the rarity in many parts of the country.
Then there's a time issue involved. Just as with current fixed route public transportation, bicycling requires more time--substantially more time in many cases--than using a vehicle. That translates to a higher opportunity cost that might make it undesirable.

On the whole, just as public transit is often not the best, or even a viable, option, bicycling is equally high cost low return for most people. That's why most people don't use a bicycle.

many other countries use bicycles for transportation quite successfully. I guess they aren't afraid of chilly weather or light rain/drizzle like you are. stores do sell rain coats and parkas btw

it is true the rural communities, mostly red areas so it'll never happen there anyway, they're not a good transportation solution......but urban populations would benefit greatly if bicycles caught on there, which I doubt they will, but every strategy would help AGW (which you probably don't believe in anyway)

[moon]

Bike-shaws are really useful transport in cities or within country communities. Kids with no driving licence can ferry old folk to the shops, etc. Electric-assisted versions are increasingly used for short-distance deliveries.

[evince]

Consumers not consuming what the corporations want them to consume?



Good


Capitalism needs to provide WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT TO BUY



Get it you capitalists

[reagansghost]

Bike-shaws are really useful transport in cities or within country communities. Kids with no driving licence can ferry old folk to the shops, etc. Electric-assisted versions are increasingly used for short-distance deliveries.

most Americans think a 10 minute bicycle ride, on flat ground, is a bridge too far. plus, if a neighbor or friend saw them peddling around they'd be a laughing stock

[moon]

most Americans think a 10 minute bicycle ride, on flat ground, is a bridge too far. plus, if a neighbor or friend saw them peddling around they'd be a laughing stock

They'll get used to seeing it.

[Micawber]

My Tribike costs as much as some used cars. I pollute by flying and driving to events around the country. (jobs and illness)
buying chews and bonk bars, shimano clipless shoes, service calls for repairs and set up, cateye and Garmin smartwatch.

So I feel I'm doing my part. No McDonalds for me though my kid likes happymeals. Many things we do have unexpected economic consequences.

[Diesel]

Question... Do those bicyclists ride when there's like a foot of snow on the ground and a blizzard outside? Do they ride to work (assuming they have a job) in a torrential downpour? How do they do something like bring home ten bags of groceries? Or, is it their lifestyle to live in a high rise apartment and eat out all the time?

But it's all good... Bicyclists who ride incessantly are more likely to end up sterile...

https://www.urologytimes.com/view/bi...ad-mens-health

When you toss in increased exposure to air pollution and accidents, bicyclists seem to be self annihilating.

https://www.minnpost.com/cityscape/2...s-your-health/

Not all, but most of us do ride our bikes in the snow and rain. We also ride on hot, sunny summer days. We have showers at work because we aren't undomesticated animals. I bring 30 pound bags of dog food onto the bus and carry them over my shoulder between the PetSmart, the stops, and my house. I only buy the groceries that I'm going to eat for the next few days and then go shopping again. I use a backpack and reusable bags. If I'm going to cook a Thanksgiving meal or travel more than 30 miles, I use my car. Otherwise, I start them once a week and that's it.

Tell me: What on this godforsaken planet made you anti-bike? Seriously. Of all the things in existence to oppose, you don't like bike riders? Shut the fuck up.

[Diesel]

I'd think that'd depend on where you live. For much of the US, half the year it's hot and often humid. The other half is wet, cold, even frigid. "Nice" weather is the rarity in many parts of the country.
Then there's a time issue involved. Just as with current fixed route public transportation, bicycling requires more time--substantially more time in many cases--than using a vehicle. That translates to a higher opportunity cost that might make it undesirable.

On the whole, just as public transit is often not the best, or even a viable, option, bicycling is equally high cost low return for most people. That's why most people don't use a bicycle.

That is a galactically stupid post. You really should visit the Denver metro area and NYC.

[AProudLefty]

"The bicycle is the slow death of the planet."

I hope he did say this, but don't know. Sounds about right.


General Director of Euro Exim Bank Ltd. got economists thinking when he said:

"A cyclist is a disaster for the country's economy: he does not buy cars and does not borrow money to buy. He does not pay for insurance policies. He does not buy fuel, does not pay for the necessary maintenance and repairs. He does not use paid parking. He does not cause serious accidents. He does not require multi-lane highways. He does not get fat.

Healthy people are neither needed nor useful for the economy. They don't buy medicine. They do not go to hospitals or doctors. Nothing is added to the country's GDP (gross domestic product).

On the contrary, every new McDonald's restaurant creates at least 30 jobs: 10 cardiologists, 10 dentists, 10 dietary experts and nutritionists, and obviously, people who work at the restaurant itself."

Choose carefully: cyclist or McDonald's? It is worth considering.


P.S. Walking is even worse. Pedestrians don't even buy bicycles.


~ babylonsister

Extremely accurate. Ever seen a fat Asian? Me either.

[Diesel]

most Americans think a 10 minute bicycle ride, on flat ground, is a bridge too far. plus, if a neighbor or friend saw them peddling around they'd be a laughing stock

Most Americans are abject idiots. They're also fat and unfit with little education and no global understanding nor curiosity to understand the globe. I live part time in Boulder, CO. We bike literally everywhere. There is more of a stigma around starting your car, pulling out of your garage, and then showing up back home 15 minutes later than there is about jumping on your bike.

[Diesel]

Extremely accurate. Ever seen a fat Asian? Me either.

I am Asian; and yesterday a JPP member told me that I have a fat ass. I was flattered, but I still ride a bike and take public transportation every day of my life.

[AProudLefty]

Question... Do those bicyclists ride when there's a blizzard outside? Do they ride to work (assuming they have a job) in a torrential downpour?

Do the drivers?

How do they do something like bring home ten bags of groceries?

I hope that isn't a serious question.

When you toss in increased exposure to air pollution and accidents, bicyclists seem to be self annihilating.

Funny how those Olympics cyclists had no problem yesterday.