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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You're of Native American decent. Anecdotal of course but what's you or your family's thoughts on sports teams names such as the Redskins, Indians, Chiefs etc.? (Or others in the NA community that you may speak to about this)
    Anecdotal for sure. I am only 1/4 Native American. Of course folks can tell from my posting that I’m against such woke changes. More anecdotal info … Our mascot at the school where I teach is the Savage. About 70% of our kids are of Native American descent. The one time it was mentioned by some poor unsuspecting person that we might ought to change the mascot there was a Native American uprising. The board room was full to overflowing at that meeting. We are still the Savages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Simple. but accurate. acid test I like for anyone who criticize the abondoning of Native American sports nicknames, would you go up to a person on the street you recognized as a Native American and openly address them as "redskin?" For example, "hey redskin, which was is the ballpark?"
    I wouldn’t say this to a complete stranger but consider…when in high school our center fielder was 100% Native. A typical exchange between us would be, “Good catch, Injun.” …. Followed by, “Thanks, paleface.” He’s been dead for years but I remain close friends with his family until this day. We still talk about those “good ol’ days” when Ray and I were in high school playing baseball together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I wouldn’t say this to a complete stranger but consider…when in high school our center fielder was 100% Native. A typical exchange between us would be, “Good catch, Injun.” …. Followed by, “Thanks, paleface.” He’s been dead for years but I remain close friends with his family until this day. We still talk about those “good ol’ days” when Ray and I were in high school playing baseball together.
    I love sports and think it teaches so many positive values and it brings people from all walks of life together competing with each other for a common goal. Now there has to be a base level of respect involved but people can joke about their differences like you described above. I know I experienced playing in Oakland leagues growing up. While it can be bad it can have a lot of good too as people learn we are all much more the same than we are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Interesting.
    This is what they look like:



    They're hugely iconic there. I think they look expensively boring... but heck, why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    This is what they look like:



    They're hugely iconic there. I think they look expensively boring... but heck, why not?
    Hmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Hmmmm.

    How long before teams are named for the cities fav sandwich?
    Once they realize they can sell it for advertising money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Hmmmm.

    How long before teams are named for the cities fav sandwich?
    Lol, the New York Bagel Boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Once they realize they can sell it for advertising money.
    Damn,,,,You are surely correct.

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    There's nothing better that Trump likes to do than to demagogue an issue, and instigate trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    There's nothing better that Trump likes to do than to demagogue an issue, and instigate trouble.
    That’s what he’s doing? Silly me, I thought he was stating an opinion. I can see how that stated opinion appeals to “ordinary people,” but I fail to see how it “instigates trouble.” Yes, I went back and re-read what he said before posting this comment. Ain’t seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You're of Native American decent. Anecdotal of course but what's you or your family's thoughts on sports teams names such as the Redskins, Indians, Chiefs etc.? (Or others in the NA community that you may speak to about this)
    I am native American. If find it insulting for them to change their name to be politically correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I am native American. If find it insulting for them to change their name to be politically correct.
    You speak for LR and/or are a member of his family?

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    Nobody loathes the pigfucker Trump more than In do, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    The name change is an abomination.
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