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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Quite true. Many things could go so many different ways.

    As things stand now, I frankly don't see how we could avoid a civil war now. Either Democrats will push their violence, fascism, and communism hard enough upon people that they will revolt openly, or conservatives get voted in somehow and Democrats will increase their violence and hatred even further until people revolt openly.

    A peaceful transition back to a republican form of government that honors the constitutions that define it will be utterly rejected by the Democrats. They want an oligarchy or a dictatorship. They will kill to get it. They already have.
    nope. freedom is on the march. sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    why are you obsessed with corporations?
    I'm not. YOU are. I am addressing your obsession.
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    the original standards and rules for corporations were best.
    What 'original standards and rules'?
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    it helps avoid fascism.
    Corporations are not fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    the free market is an illusion.
    The free is real. It exists. You can't kill it. It's immortal. It is always there, even if it operates as a 'black' or illegal market.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    capitalism is fascism. so is communism.
    Capitalism is not fascism nor communism.
    Fascism is not communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes. China's government is shit right now. Their finances are in the proverbial toilet. They are broke. They are trying to expand their way out of their problems. It isn't working. The people China are getting out if they can, and getting their wealth out if they can. They are not dumb. They see the writing on the wall.

    It is not growing. Ours was, until Democrats killed it.

    Wrong again. China is moving back toward their almost continuous history of revolution after revolution. This last spate of peace is highly unusual for China.

    The threat of civil war in the States of America is very real. So is threat of civil war in China. The only difference is that the Chinese are used to it. The United States has never been through a civil war before. The War of Secession was not a civil war. That was a war between two nations.

    Ain't gonna happen. Too many other nations would stop it.
    China was poorer than Africa in 1973....

    Wall Street helped & continues to help prop up evil semi Commie China.

    China is united more than we.

    USA main ethnic Anglo is maybe 20% of the USA.
    Han Chinese are like 90% of China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    are monopoly capitalists still capitalists?
    I have already answered this question for you. RQAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    intothenight thinks china is redeemed because they're using more corporate logos instead of the one state seal.
    China is redeemed???? From what???
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    nope. freedom is on the march. sorry.
    That it is. Doesn't change my prediction though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    China was poorer than Africa in 1973....

    Wall Street helped & continues to help prop up evil semi Commie China.

    China is united more than we.

    USA main ethnic Anglo is maybe 20% of the USA.
    Han Chinese are like 90% of China.
    False equivalence. China is not a federated structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I'm not. YOU are. I am addressing your obsession.

    What 'original standards and rules'?

    Corporations are not fascism.
    Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
    Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
    Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
    Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
    Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
    Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making

    https://reclaimdemocracy.org/corpora...rporations-us/

    fascism is corporatism. it's literally textbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The free is real. It exists. You can't kill it. It's immortal. It is always there, even if it operates as a 'black' or illegal market.

    Capitalism is not fascism nor communism.
    Fascism is not communism.
    does a corporation paying a government to help enforce their monopoly result in a free market?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    False equivalence. China is not a federated structure.
    China since the 1970s has grown in wealth, power, living standards.

    Wish I could say the same about the USA....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
    No need for a limited time. Corporate charters can be revoked for violating laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
    Still true today.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
    They can own stock and any property in accordance to their charter. An individual within a corporation is NOT the corporation.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
    Still true today.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
    Still true today.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making
    They can if it's in their charter.
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    fascism is corporatism.
    ...deleted Holy Link...
    Fascism is not corporatism nor a way of organizing any business.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    it's literally textbook.
    Void authority fallacy.

    Cutting and pasting is mindless. You are better than this. Don't fall into this trap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    is a corporation paying a government to help enforce their monopoly a free market?
    If the government helps them in return, the government is manipulating markets. That is fascism. Such a corporation is not fascism itself, but they are encouraging fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    China since the 1970s has grown in wealth, power, living standards.

    Wish I could say the same about the USA....
    Yer about 50 years out of date, dude.
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    again, what specific Biden actions caused the market to go up this year? Give us a list and show the direct connection between the action and the market. or, you could just STFU about your senile babbling idiot and his whore VP

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