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    totalitarian unity is false unity.

    the devil hates this truth.

    divisive propaganda is a false division. crt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    so you're fine going back to the initial standards for corporations then.
    What's to go back to?

    A corporation is simply one way of organizing a business.

    It is essentially a business with a constitution (the corporate charter). Like any constitution, it has it's rules for amending it, and what happens to business assets should that constitution be destroyed. The founders of a corporation created that document. Shares of ownership can be sold to others in most cases, as authorized by that document. Owners can transfer their shares according to that document. The owners (the shareholders) own that constitution. Only they can amend it. Only they can destroy it if they choose to do so, thus dissolving the corporation.

    Some corporations become rather large. Businesses go into business to make money. They do that by satisfying customers. A business without satisfied customers is NOT going to be in business for long. It is no different for any corporation.

    Like any business, some are better at it than others. They are all capitalism. They are all serving others. They are all providing a product or service voluntarily, that others are willing to pay for voluntarily.

    Do corporations make mistakes or conduct their business badly? Some certainly do. It is no different than any other business in that regard.

    BTW, I founded a corporation. Shares are not sold on the public market (the stock market). They are kept with the founders and their families, with limited means of disposing their shares. My business builds instrumentation for industrial, medical and aerospace uses. It is an international corporation, selling instrumentation around the world.
    I am also a major owner in two other corporations. One sells broadcast TV equipment, the other invests and improves real estate such as apartment complexes and strip malls. The first is an international corporation, selling equipment around the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    What's to go back to?

    A corporation is simply one way of organizing a business.

    It is essentially a business with a constitution (the corporate charter). Like any constitution, it has it's rules for amending it, and what happens to business assets should that constitution be destroyed. The founders of a corporation created that document. Shares of ownership can be sold to others in most cases, as authorized by that document. Owners can transfer their shares according to that document. The owners (the shareholders) own that constitution. Only they can amend it. Only they can destroy it if they choose to do so, thus dissolving the corporation.

    Some corporations become rather large. Businesses go into business to make money. They do that by satisfying customers. A business without satisfied customers is NOT going to be in business for long. It is no different for any corporation.

    Like any business, some are better at it than others. They are all capitalism. They are all serving others. They are all providing a product or service voluntarily, that others are willing to pay for voluntarily.

    Do corporations make mistakes or conduct their business badly? Some certainly do. It is no different than any other business in that regard.
    why are you obsessed with corporations?

    the original standards and rules for corporations were best.

    it helps avoid fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Capitalism exists in every nation, even inside China. The free market is immortal. You can't kill it. See your local drug dealer for details.
    the free market is an illusion.

    capitalism is fascism. so is communism.
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    are monopoly capitalists still capitalists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Say a share of Apple is worth $200 but the dollar value slides so to buy the same amount of Apple now costs $250.

    Sort of like how a 200K house now cost 250K . The house hasn't changed but the number of dollars needed to buy it has increased.
    Yes. This is essentially what is happening.

    Inflation is nasty. It causes speculative things like the stock market and real estate prices to rise with no increase in wealth, it causes high prices for everything that you use, it causes higher prices for government too. This means the benefit they get from printing the money is very short lived. They must print MORE money to cover the higher prices THEY caused for everything the government buys.

    It's an evil spiral. If not curtailed, it will result in a cash crash. This sort of thing doesn't just happen to Weimar Germany, Mexico, Japan, or Brazil. It can happen to us too.

    The federal government is broke. The only way out is to cut government programs back severely. If they do not do it voluntarily, in some kind of organized manner, it will happen involuntarily, in a chaotic manner.
    Those dependent on government money will be the worst hurt by this. So far, Congress has shown no inclination to curtail their spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    ROTFLMFAO!!!!! Only if you are buying it with something other than dollars, dimwit. It still costs the exact same number of dollars. Holy crap, you really don't know anything, do you? It's sublime.
    EVERYTHING you buy with dollars is other than dollars, twit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You say the dumbest shit, with such confidence. Have you heard of oligopoly? How about monopoly? Companies seek to end competition. They want max profits with min work. The function of the government is to stop companies from ending competition. They naturally and normally move toward ending competition. The govt is the only power that can stop them.
    You are really ignorant. Have you heard of trustbusting? How about breaking up monopolies?
    Who ties your shoes for you?
    WRONG. Oligopolies and monopolies are self destructive. No government intervention is necessary. It won't be long before some little company shows up to shoot their kneecaps off. I have already given several examples of this.
    Oligopolies and monopolies can ONLY stay safe if and only if government intervenes. I have already shown examples of this as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Economics major here. Uh. No. It was witless off the cuff unadulterated bullshit. Rare to see bullshit of the purest kind.
    Since you deny economics, I don't believe you. If you are, then get your money back. The twits that are teaching you don't know economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    somebody tell into the night money is a commodity.
    No, it is not. Money is a medium of exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Fascists had councils, so it has everything to do with the discussion.
    Republics have councils. Religions have councils. Families have councils. Everyone has councils. Divisional error fallacy.
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    intothenight thinks china is redeemed because they're using more corporate logos instead of the one state seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Not yet.
    Yes. China's government is shit right now. Their finances are in the proverbial toilet. They are broke. They are trying to expand their way out of their problems. It isn't working. The people China are getting out if they can, and getting their wealth out if they can. They are not dumb. They see the writing on the wall.
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    But, they are a bigger population with an economy growing for decades unlike our economy in decline all those decades.
    It is not growing. Ours was, until Democrats killed it.
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    The most concerning fact is China is so united & America so divided.
    Wrong again. China is moving back toward their almost continuous history of revolution after revolution. This last spate of peace is highly unusual for China.
    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    We're likely to off each other in a Civil War,
    The threat of civil war in the States of America is very real. So is threat of civil war in China. The only difference is that the Chinese are used to it. The United States has never been through a civil war before. The War of Secession was not a civil war. That was a war between two nations.
    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    giving China the chance to start taking over the World.
    Ain't gonna happen. Too many other nations would stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    that's ccp propaganda.

    there is no fate but what we make. --sarah connor

    the timeline is always up for grabs.
    Quite true. Many things could go so many different ways.

    As things stand now, I frankly don't see how we could avoid a civil war now. Either Democrats will push their violence, fascism, and communism hard enough upon people that they will revolt openly, or conservatives get voted in somehow and Democrats will increase their violence and hatred even further until people revolt openly.

    A peaceful transition back to a republican form of government that honors the constitutions that define it will be utterly rejected by the Democrats. They want an oligarchy or a dictatorship. They will kill to get it. They already have.
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