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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes. That was fascism. Capitalism also existed in the USA.
    Charters are similar but not identical to councils

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Honesty according to true Libertarians the history of the World has been about 99.999% non free market Capitalism.

    Closest examples of Free Market Capitalism are mostly Black.
    Like Somalia or Cayman Islands.
    Capitalism exists in every nation, even inside China. The free market is immortal. You can't kill it. See your local drug dealer for details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    We won everything in the last election. You can thank Trump.

    Do proceed on this same course, you degenerate scum.
    There was no election in 2020. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Capitalism exists in every nation, even inside China. The free market is immortal. You can't kill it. See your local drug dealer for details.
    Miniscule Capitalism vs free market Capitalism.

    Not one of the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Id much rather discuss Fascism.

    Rather than the typical forum flailings of mask off, mask on, vax on, vax off Biden, Trump herpes derpity doo.
    Oh I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Exaggerated.
    Germany & China were leaders of mass murder & Human misery long before becoming Communist or Fascist.
    Communism and fascism exist in every nation, just like capitalism. These are forms of economic systems, not forms of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    word games.


    are monopoly capitalists still captalists?
    It is YOU trying to make it word games.

    I have already answered your question. Yes. They are still capitalists. Their monopoly is self destructive, however. It won't be long before some competition comes along to clean their clock. It usually starts by some smaller company coming along to shoot the kneecaps off the bigger company.

    Examples:
    The personal computer industry, that destroyed the monopoly of IBM. The Linux community, which destroyed the monopoly of Microsoft. Curtis, which destroyed the monopoly of the Wright company. Honda and Toyota, which destroyed the monopoly of the Big Three automakers in the United States.

    One monopoly that is sustained by the government is DuPont. It is the sole manufacturer of many refrigerants, now mandated by law (fascism). It is DuPont that created the whole story about the ozone hole being created by R12.
    The clueless public believed it, because they don't know enough chemistry to realize how ozone is produced and destroyed, or that R12 is inert in ozone.

    DuPont was losing the patents on R12. It went whining to the government to protect it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    The political spectrum should be a triangle Fascism vs Communism vs Libertarianism.

    All governments fall between the 3.
    Neither fascism nor communism nor capitalism are forms of government.

    A dictatorship is a form of government. It is government by a dictator (or king); a single person that dictates all laws.
    An oligarchy is a dictatorship by committee. It may have a 'king' as a ceremonial 'leader', but the oligarchy decides all laws.

    A democracy is government by common vote. It has no constitution, no representatives. It is mob rule. It is an unstable form of government, usually dissolving into an oligarchy or dictatorship before long. Athens dissolved into a dictatorship. The CHAZ experiment in Seattle dissolved into an oligarchy.

    A republic is government by constitution. That constitution defines and declare the government and gives it certain limited power and authority and specifies it. It has representatives, elected by the procedures outlined in that constitution, and serving a term of office defined in that constitution.

    The United States was organized as a federated republic. That's a layered form of republics, coming together as a meta-republic. Each city has a constitution (the city charter). Each county has a constitution. Each State has a constitution. The States came together to create the Constitution of the United States, forming the federal government. The States own that constitution. They created it. Only they can change it. Only they can interpret it.

    The UK is an oligarchy. It has no constitution.
    Canada is an oligarchy. It has no functioning constitution. It could even be called a federated oligarchy.
    China is an oligarchy.
    Cuba is a dictatorship.
    North Korea is a dictatorship.
    Japan is a republic.
    South Korea is a republic.

    ALL of these nations have capitalism, fascism, and communism within them.
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    Murder yourself fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Which Councils did they have?
    Maybe you should go read up on the history of these nations. There is no practical space to discuss it here on JPP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

    Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
    Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
    Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
    Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
    Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
    Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.

    https://reclaimdemocracy.org/corpora...rporations-us/

    we need to go back to this.

    corporations are destroying the world.

    no. it's not socialist to not let corporations take over everything.

    I call it populism. it differs from socialism becauce socialism is just an excuse to centralize everthing, then privatize it to crony friends and put a state seal over it.
    What is with this fixation of corporations? It's about businesses, not necessarily corporations.

    Corporations are not destroying the world. It is simply a way of organizing a business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kielbasa View Post
    Charters are similar but not identical to councils
    ? I am not talking about either councils or charters.
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    Nobody cares about your miserable existence or thoughts fallacy.

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