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    Default McCarthy: 'Pelosi colluded with Trump to overthrow Biden' ...what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    The GQP has poisoned itself with too much treason, moral rot, sedition and running with Putin's bitch tRump at destroying itself and its relationship with Democracy and the common decency of humanity.

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    McCarthy is having meetings with Trump in NJ, I wonder what they talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    I think the explanation might be that the House Speaker is responsible for Capitol security.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    McCarthy: Was there a decision by the Speaker not to have the National Guard at the Capitol that day?
    Pelosi has no authority over the National Guard. It is the president who controls the National Guard in DC, and allows the National Guard of other states to enter DC. If the Capital Police were ordered to request the National Guard, it would be the full committee that would do that. Pelosi has no individual authority over the Capital Police. She has one vote, along with McCarthy who has one vote. If there was a decision about the Capital Police, McCarthy was in on it.

    So basically McCarthy is not only lying, but he knows he is lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post

    So basically McCarthy is not only lying, but he knows he is lying.
    I'm not so sure McCarthy knows he's lying. Seriously, this guy is as dumb as a post, noticed that waaay back before he took over for Boehner .... from Salon in 2015:


    Here are some highlights:

    "We must engage this war of radical Islam if our life depended on it. Because it does."

    War of radical Islam? "On" or "against" makes more sense, of course. And shouldn't it be "lives" and not "life?" Honestly, the rest of the quotes will make this passage seem comparatively Shakespearean.

    "This 'safe zone' would create a stem a flow of refugees... Unlike during the surge in Iraq when Petraeus and Crocker had an effective politically strategy to match the military strategy."

    There's no such phrase as "stem a flow." There's something called "stemflow." One can also stem the flow of something, which is possibly what he meant. But "politically strategy" is just ridiculous.

    "We have isolated Israel, while bolding places like Iran."

    It's emboldening. Who's responsible for this crap?

    "The absence of leadership over the past six years has had a horrific consequences all across the globe."

    Was anyone fired for this? How the hell is he still a contender for Speaker?

    "In the past few years alone, I have visited Poland, Hungria, Estonia, Russia and Georgia..."


    Hungria. Which is north of Freedonia and adjacent to that fake island where Balki from "Perfect Strangers" came from.

    "It defies belief that the president would allow the ban on Iranian oil exports to be lifted. And also stand by while Russia blackmails an entire continent, all the while keeping the place of the band on America."

    I have no idea what any of that means. Which continent? Let's get real here: we should amend the Constitution so that when any elected politician mutilates the English language this badly, their desk chair turns into an ejector-seat that summarily launches them out of Congress. Let's get on this now before it's too late.

    "We don't have the same as difficult decision that this White House is managing the decline and putting us in tough decisions for the future."

    Um. Huh?

    To be fair, gaffes are part of being a public figure. Spend enough time in front of a microphone and weird crap will inevitably fall out. However, a "stem a flow" of gaffes like this is inexcusable for a leader who's stepping into an office that's two heartbeats away from the presidency. Again, was it his speechwriter? Was he unable to read the prepared remarks? Why was he incapable of correcting the remarks on-the-fly? Was he having a stroke? Even the party of George W. Bush and Sarah Palin should, in a sane world, stand up and in a unified voice block this nincompoop from becoming Speaker. They won't, of course, and Boehner will likely hand his gavel over to the guy who, with a straight face, said he visited a place called "Hungria."
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    Sorry, but the guy you might want to have a beer with shouldn't control the nuclear launch codes or the destiny of the free world. We should demand leaders who are devastatingly smart, engaged, disciplined, centered and intellectually curious. We should be gravitationally drawn to leaders with impeccable schooling and robust speaking skills. The salient question is this: Why don't Republicans want the same? Why are they so willing to settle for feckless trolls like Donald Trump or marble-mouthed dilettantes like Kevin McCarthy? It might be somewhat acceptable if they actually took responsibility for putting us all in tough decisions for the future, but the party of personal responsibility will never do that. And it’s hurting America.


    https://www.salon.com/2015/10/05/kev...he_presidency/

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    He knows Fox News viewers are morons. I thought this had already been debunked, but that never stops them from spouting lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I think the explanation might be that the House Speaker is responsible for Capitol security.
    She along with several other people, including McCarthy, has responsibility, but she alone is not responsible. The Senate is the upper house, so it has seniority, so she is not even the senior person. The senior person was McConnell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    She along with several other people, including McCarthy, has responsibility, but she alone is not responsible. The Senate is the upper house, so it has seniority, so she is not even the senior person. The senior person was McConnell.
    False. The Department of Defense calls out the National Guard. You know, what Commander in Chief Trump was in charge of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    False. The Department of Defense calls out the National Guard. You know, what Commander in Chief Trump was in charge of.
    trump controls the DC National Guard, and is the only one able to give permission for the other National Guards to enter DC. Basically, trump controls the National Guard in DC, but not necessarily in their own states.

    trump has no control of the US Capital Police. The Congress as a whole controls the US Capital Police. That includes Pelosi, but McConnel would have been the senior person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump controls the DC National Guard, and is the only one able to give permission for the other National Guards to enter DC. Basically, trump controls the National Guard in DC, but not necessarily in their own states.

    trump has no control of the US Capital Police. The Congress as a whole controls the US Capital Police. That includes Pelosi, but McConnel would have been the senior person.
    Good. You know Trump prevented the National Guard from being mobilized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Good. You know Trump prevented the National Guard from being mobilized.
    Yes. When states National Guards did get permission to enter DC, they could not leave. If they left, trump would prevent them from reentering. This created a bizarre situation where Guardsmen from Maryland who lived half an hour away, could not go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Yes. When states National Guards did get permission to enter DC, they could not leave. If they left, trump would prevent them from reentering. This created a bizarre situation where Guardsmen from Maryland who lived half an hour away, could not go home.
    I am looking forward to all of this coming out in the upcoming investigation. All that we the people have so far is snippets of this and snippets of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I think the explanation might be that the House Speaker is responsible for Capitol security.
    No, Capitol Police, not the Nat’l Guard, and you refuse to retain this information that has been given to you on several occasions. You choose to be misinformed, and pass on misinformation.

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    The National Guard was under Trump's power. He was asked to send them and he did not because things were going along like he hoped and planned. McCarthy does not have to tell the truth. Any claim that deflects from Trump is fine and it will be reported as fact by the right. Trump planned the attack and urged it in person. Nobody else is to blame for the insurrection or the damage and deaths.

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