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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress.

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    Now explain why Pelosi shouldn’t be prevented from picking who gets kicked off the team.
    Former chief Steven Sund -- who resigned his post last week after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for him to step down -- made the assertions in an interview with The Washington Post published Sunday.

    Sund contradicts claims made by officials after Wednesday's assault on Capitol Hill. Sund's superiors said previously that the National Guard and other additional security support could have been provided, but no one at the Capitol requested it.


    you should work for Fox, great out-of-context reporting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Pelosi has no authority over the National Guard. It is the president who controls the National Guard in DC, and allows the National Guard of other states to enter DC. If the Capital Police were ordered to request the National Guard, it would be the full committee that would do that. Pelosi has no individual authority over the Capital Police. She has one vote, along with McCarthy who has one vote. If there was a decision about the Capital Police, McCarthy was in on it.

    So basically McCarthy is not only lying, but he knows he is lying.
    McCarthy has 0 interest in truth now that he knows his base will believe whatever he says no matter how insane.
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Early it was quite evident that the Capitol police were overwhelmed, the National Guard was the proper call, and Trump is the one who sends them in, or in this case, didn't send them in, one would have to wonder why, then again, no they don't, already know
    Why did Pelosi wait that long? The Capitol never should have been breached in the first place. Someone dropped the ball on security *preparation*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Former chief Steven Sund -- who resigned his post last week after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for him to step down -- made the assertions in an interview with The Washington Post published Sunday.

    Sund contradicts claims made by officials after Wednesday's assault on Capitol Hill. Sund's superiors said previously that the National Guard and other additional security support could have been provided, but no one at the Capitol requested it.


    you should work for Fox, great out-of-context reporting
    Someone is being less than forthcoming and you pretend to know who. Should I guess which one lol?
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    McCarthy's hopes and dreams of becoming House Speaker again just keep fading away.

    In fact, he will now probably end up losing the minority leader seat if this investigation goes through!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why did Pelosi wait that long? The Capitol never should have been breached in the first place. Someone dropped the ball on security *preparation*.
    "wait that long" for what, she can't call in the National Guard, and Trump certainly didn't need her opinion to do such especially when events were broadcast live on TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "wait that long" for what, she can't call in the National Guard, and Trump certainly didn't need her opinion to do such especially when events were broadcast live on TV
    You’re missing the point.

    You don’t call them out *after* they breached the Capitol. You put them in place *before* anything happens. That was in Pelosi’s wheel house. Her and the democrats spent the summer yapping about ‘dangerous Trump supporters’ so one would think she would have actually done something in terms of preparation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    McCarthy has 0 interest in truth now that he knows his base will believe whatever he says no matter how insane.
    Republicans just make up random lies. They will say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    The GQP has poisoned itself with too much treason, moral rot, sedition and running with Putin's bitch tRump at destroying itself and its relationship with Democracy and the common decency of humanity.
    What treason? What moral rot? What sedition? Putin wants socialists in office, not Trump. There is no democracy and never was in the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Republicans just make up random lies. They will say anything.
    You are describing Democrats (and yourself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump controls the DC National Guard, and is the only one able to give permission for the other National Guards to enter DC. Basically, trump controls the National Guard in DC, but not necessarily in their own states.

    trump has no control of the US Capital Police. The Congress as a whole controls the US Capital Police. That includes Pelosi, but McConnel would have been the senior person.
    Trump controlled the National Guard in all States. It is the national militia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why did Pelosi wait that long? The Capitol never should have been breached in the first place. Someone dropped the ball on security *preparation*.
    Capitol building security let them in. It was not breached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Trump controlled the National Guard in all States. It is the national militia.
    The National Guard functions under "dual command", which means when not federalized, they are under state authority. They are both a state and national militia. They are in essence the original state troopers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The National Guard functions under "dual command", which means when not federalized, they are under state authority. They are both a state and national militia. They are in essence the original state troopers.
    DC is not a state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Pelosi has no authority over the National Guard. It is the president who controls the National Guard in DC, and allows the National Guard of other states to enter DC. If the Capital Police were ordered to request the National Guard, it would be the full committee that would do that. Pelosi has no individual authority over the Capital Police. She has one vote, along with McCarthy who has one vote. If there was a decision about the Capital Police, McCarthy was in on it.

    So basically McCarthy is not only lying, but he knows he is lying.



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    Here some basic facts to help you understand what is going on...



    (1) As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi is RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OPERATIONAL DECISIONS MADE WITHIN THE HOUSE.



    (2) Pelosi was responsible for the failure to protect the Capital from trespassers on 6th Jan 2021.



    (3) Days before, President Trump predicted that the rally of his supporters would be MASSIVE, and indeed it was the biggest rally he said he had ever seen, with 100's of thousand of supporters streching back all the way to the Washington Monument.

    .

    (4) On the 4th of January, 2021, Trump suggested that 10,000 National Guardsmen be mobilised on the 6th to keep order if necessary.



    (5) Trump's recommendation to was conveyed to Pelosi by the DC police and the HOUSE Sergeant - At - Arms.



    (6) Pelosi rejected the offer, saying it would make for bad "optics."



    (7) Washington DC is technically controlled by Congress, and the states are independent. So, a constitutionalist (Trump) does not send in troops unless invited. If Trump HAD sent troops in, the Democrats would have accused him of instigating a Coup D'etat



    (8) Pelosi summarily fired the two men: the Sergeant at Arms and the DC police officer, after the Capitol was breached on the 6th January, 2021. The were the two men who conveyed the recommendation by Trump to Pelosi (on 4th January, 2021), that 10,000 National Guards be deployed on the 6th, in case anything got out of hand, due to the MASSIVE number of rally-goers who were predicted to attend on the 6th.



    Can you join up the dots now, Walty Baby ?



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