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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Dble bullshit. I live in Dearborn and have relatives in Windsor. When I go to parties or weddings. I make it a point to joke about how they hate their medical care and want ours. They laugh out loud and wonder where Americans get that. Tommy Douglas is the most highly rated Canadian politician of all time. Know what he did? He invented Canadian healthcare.
    They do not line up for American surgery. You have to read fairer sources.
    As I said before, over a million Americans go abroad for health services every year. https://www.medicaltourismco.com/ there are many, many sites like this. You are a believer without knowledge. That is why you are a righty.
    some people have to be treated like cattle as they can't think for themselves. I would quit and move before I would pay 54% of every dollar earned to the government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    In terms of dollars- EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY DID TRUMP PROVIDE YOU WITH HIS TAX CUT?

    IT'S OK IF YOU DON'T ANSWER- WE'LL JUST ASSUME IT WAS SOME CHUMP CHANGE- AND YOU ARE JUST TOO EMBARRASSED TO ANSWER BECAUSE IT DOES NOT PLAY INTO YOUR NARRATIVE- AND IT IS YOU WHO IS ACTUALLY MAKING STUFF UP AGAIN!
    same deduction as Obama year, we paid $5900 less in taxes that the year before which went to the wonderful returns of the 401k,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    My taxes went up under Trump.

    Your party doesn't mean what they say. Talk is cheap, and never so cheap as when vommited from a Repuke.
    If they did you must of been one of those deducting a lot of mortgage interest which is fucking nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    some have the need to be treated like cattle, I can't imagine paying .54 of every dollar earned for a national healthcare that does nothing
    I think you exaggerate how much they pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I think you exaggerate how much they pay.
    My associated pays .54 of every dollar total tax, part goes to the healthcare, yet he comes to New York when needing surgery in under 1 year

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    My associated pays .54 of every dollar total tax, part goes to the healthcare, yet he comes to New York when needing surgery in under 1 year
    Proof, please, because, again, I think you are exaggerating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Proof, please, because, again, I think you are exaggerating
    I don't see his taxes or W2s, I did see a check stub once and he pays a little less than double the taxes I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    same deduction as Obama year, we paid $5900 less in taxes that the year before which went to the wonderful returns of the 401k,
    Good job! Nice! Good luck with that 401K!

    You may even be able to retire early if that thing keeps rising!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Proof, please, because, again, I think you are exaggerating
    They lie about everything. Even this user is almost certainly a sock that refuses to admit it. I don't believe any of their anecdotes for that very reason. Numbers matter, not what some McDonalds fry cook claims he paid in taxes last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    I don't see his taxes or W2s, I did see a check stub once and he pays a little less than double the taxes I do.
    https://www.fidelity.ca/fidca/en/inv...0cdataxbracket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    You didnít answer the question, how did Republicans pay for their tax cuts for the rich?
    You not too smart, is you?

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/truth...iyZu2SCrj84jao
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yeah, which is why striving to balance the federal budget is really, really, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY stupid.

    If you cut government spending and don't replace that spending in the economy, you will contract the economy.

    So if you talk about spending cuts, you need to show where that spending is being made up...and we know it's not made up by increased consumer spending.

    So if you pull $500B of spending out of the economy, or 2% of GDP, you need to make up that spending elsewhere otherwise you just contracted the economy by 2%, which would cause a recession.
    I thought I said it would hurt. It will take about 10 years of suffering. We have to pay for our sins but will be better off until irresponsible politicians again take control.
    "Where the people fear the govt. you have tyranny. Where the govt. fears the people you have liberty."

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I thought I said it would hurt.
    For no purpose.

    The deficit and debt have very little, if nothing to do with the performance of the economy.

    All debt represents is a scorecard of government spending...so we have $28T of debt, BUT we have a lot of stuff to show for it like infrastructure, Medicare, Social Security, and our military.

    No one is going to come and repossess our ports or national parks.

    No collection agency is going to come and pull up all of Amtrax's tracks and trains.

    No cold caller is going to come a-knocking for the airplanes in our military.

    Reasonable people can disagree over whether those items were worth the expense, but reasonable people all must agree that tax cuts provide nothing for anyone to point to and say "worth it".


    We have to pay for our sins but will be better off until irresponsible politicians again take control.
    Or what? Is someone going to repossess the Grand Canyon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    For no purpose.

    The deficit and debt have very little, if nothing to do with the performance of the economy.
    Where did I say it did? I just want to inflict pain.
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    Is someone going to repossess the Grand Canyon?
    Hope not. I'm going there in 4 weeks for the first time.
    "Where the people fear the govt. you have tyranny. Where the govt. fears the people you have liberty."

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    those rates don't include healthcare, he is at 41% and healthcare is not included according to your link

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