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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    Oh really!?
    What is this legislation based on appearance you speak of!?
    Affirmative Action!?
    Slavery. Jim Crow. Relining. Police abusing blacks. Voter suppression. The military not integrating until the 1950s. Sports waiting way, way late to have blacks. Violence at school integration like Little Rock. Nuch worse school susyems that even the Soprenes riled to fix. Remember separate but equal? If course I could get into employment discrimination too. Discrimination is what we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Slavery. Jim Crow. Relining. Police abusing blacks. Voter suppression. The military not integrating until the 1950s. Sports waiting way, way late to have blacks. Violence at school integration like Little Rock. Nuch worse school susyems that even the Soprenes riled to fix. Remember separate but equal? If course I could get into employment discrimination too. Discrimination is what we do.
    That's the past.
    Actually those werent enacted by Republicans.

    As for the only current one, Police abuse Whites too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    So dumb Polak jokes can be racist!?
    Hmm, interesting.
    Polish is a nationality. A Polish citizen can be of any race just as an American can be Caucasian, black, or Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    So, why is saying Blacks are good dancers racist to some!?
    A compliment is now racism!?

    I have an Hispanic friend who says whites have "Gringo hips."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Polish is a nationality. A Polish citizen can be of any race just as an American can be Caucasian, black, or Asian.
    Unfortunately that is starting to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    Unfortunately that is starting to be true.
    Why unfortunately? Should nationalities be limited to a single race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Why unfortunately? Should nationalities be limited to a single race?
    The last major ethnic minority in Poland the Jews went over real well.... Sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    The last major ethnic minority in Poland the Jews went over real well.... Sure...
    I don't get your point. All nationalities include people of all races (or whatever we are supposed to call them if there is no such thing as race).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't get your point. All nationalities include people of all races (or whatever we are supposed to call them if there is no such thing as race).
    I'm not arguing there is no race. I'm arguing that Liberal minded people tend to use race when convenient & deny race existing when convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    I'm not arguing there is no race. I'm arguing that Liberal minded people tend to use race when convenient & deny race existing when convenient.
    I think it is (partly) because they are afraid that admitting any biological differences between humans will be used to justify labeling some as inferior to others (as some JPP posters already do).

    We know there are biological differences. We can identify differences based on skeletal remains and DNA. What is wrong in calling those differences "race"? I understand there are very small DNA differences between the different groups, but we can usually identify those by physical differences. There is only about a 1.2% difference between humans and chimpanzees--that is not much but we don't call those differences "social constructs." Those do not imply differences in intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Biological differences exist. Race is the social aspect.
    If you can't provide any more explanation that that, then what you wrote is stupid.

    Would you care to try again, or would you prefer to just leave it at "stupid"?
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    If you can't provide any more explanation that that, then what you wrote is stupid.

    Would you care to try again, or would you prefer to just leave it at "stupid"?
    Special needs student says what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleofHodow View Post
    I'm not arguing there is no race.
    Your position is that there is no such thing as race. This is a good position to have since there is no such thing. No one who claims that there is such a thing as "race" can unambiguously define it and tell me what my children can do to find out what race they are, or if they are of the same race.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Can't come up with an answer if I think that race does exist.

    Race is to humans what breed is to our pets.

    A Doberman and a Pomeranian are the very same species; they're different breeds.

    Same applies to a pure bred Sicilian-American and, say, Doc Dutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Biological differences exist. Race is the social aspect.
    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    If you can't provide any more explanation than that, then what you wrote is stupid. Would you care to try again, or would you prefer to just leave it at "stupid"?
    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    [signs using ACL that he wants to keep it at "stupid"]
    Gotcha. OK, we'll leave it there.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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