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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No.

    Fascism is on the road to communism. Competing dictators were always against their competition. Hitler, for example, rejected Stalinist communist because they competed against his brand of socialism.

    Both fascism and communism are forms of socialism.

    Neither fascism nor communism are forms of government. Since socialism is theft of wealth, it can only be implemented by force, i.e. oligarchies and dictatorships.
    Capitalism, on the other hand, is simply everyday people producing products or services voluntarily, for a price people are willing to pay voluntarily. It requires no government. It requires only initiative and innovation to be successful in it. It is the only economic system that can create wealth.

    Socialism cannot exist without wealth to steal from. Socialism cannot exist without capitalism to steal from.

    Then socialism runs out of victims, it collapses.

    Capitalism, fascism, and communism exist in most nations, including what's left of the U.S.

    A republic is government by constitution. Constitutions are usually designed to protect and enhance free market activity, and capitalism. A constitution's purpose is to define and declare a government and to give it certain specified powers and authority. It has NO powers or authority outside of that given by that constitution. A government that ignores it's own constitution is no longer a republic.
    Fascists fought Communists in Operation Barbarossa & the Spanish Civil War.

    Fascists don't abolish property, Communists do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    He's basically right.
    Thank you. While you describe that fascism comes after communism, it is actually the reverse. The problem is simply confusing which of the two are in play. All three major economic systems, capitalism, fascism, and communism, exist side by side in most nations. It's pretty damn rare when one is missing. The reason is that fascism and communism are both forms of socialism, which is theft of wealth. They both require capitalism and the wealth it creates to steal from.

    Germany, before WW2 and WW1, was an oligarchy much of its time. This is true of Italy as well. There were times in the past of both nations, of course, where they were outright dictatorships.

    WW1 pitted Germany and her allies, including Italy, on one side, and the other nations against them, not always allied. No national borders moved at all in WW1. There were no winners or losers. It ended in an armistice. They simply gave up and went home.
    In the disaster known as the Treaty of Versailles, Germany was blamed for the cost of the war. So was Italy, but not as much. All the other nations demanded that Germany pay for these costs. This put Germany and Italy on the road to WW2. In essence, WW1 caused WW2. The dire economic straits in Germany and Italy brought Mussolini and Hitler to power. People were desperate.

    Hitler in particular had what looked like the answer to Germany's economy. Fascism. One of his first successes was to get Porsche to design and build a very cheap car (even using spare parts lying around at the time as needed). The idea was to build a car for the People (here you can see Hitler's end goal of communism), that the People could afford. The result was the People's Car. In German, Volkswagen. Unfortunately, Hitler was able to talk many people into expansionism, and talking about making Germany great again. She already had an unstoppable chemical industry, and her metalworking industries are legendary even to this day. This expansionism was coupled with racism and bigotry, resulting in genocide for anyone not 'pure Aryan'. Because of the brutal nature of the dictatorship of Hitler, this came at a terrible cost.

    You can see it in the media of the time, including Wagner's Ring Cycle opera. You know, the one that ain't over until the fat lady sings (Brunhilde, who is the heroine of the entire opera, even putting the Gods in their place (spoiler alert)).

    Now turn to the United States under Trump.

    Trump was not counseling fascism. He wasn't trying to control any market. He was trying to wrest government away from controlling markets. He was trying to get the government to follow it's own constitution again. He was moving it in the right direction, and many people saw it, but he was not successful. Democrats hate his guts because Trump fought against both communism and fascism and he continues to be a threat. Democrats WANT fascism and communism. They caused the fall of the federal government to convert it into an oligarchy, to implement fascism and communism.

    The people have heard and seen Trumps attempt. They also want a return to a republic as a form of government. They want capitalism. They want to freely conduct their business. The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker...all capitalism. It is truly what makes America great. It is Everyman. Trump recognized this. Democrats do not. Capitalism is under attack like never before from the Democrats, and Everyman with it. Democrats cannot tell the truth of their goal. Everyman would reject it. Their goal (and their length of their methods to achieve it) are becoming more obvious over time. Trump managed to show to a lot of people just exactly what the Democrats are and what their goals are. I don't think even Trump knew how far the Democrats would go to achieve their goals.

    The States of America are now each deciding whether to remain independent, join the Oligarchy, or to try to reform a republic under a constitution of some kind, probably using the Constitution of the United States as a model.

    Unfortunately, most people do not yet realize the federal government has fallen. We are seeing a defining moment of history in the making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Sobieski View Post
    Fascists fought Communists in Operation Barbarossa & the Spanish Civil War.

    Fascists don't abolish property, Communists do.
    This is quite right. Under fascism, you still keep your property. You still keep your business. Despite all the risks you took to get your business successful, however, government comes to tell you how to run it. They begin dictating who you can sell to, how much you can charge, who you must buy from, how much you have to pay for it, what product you must produce, your hours of operation, who you must hire, who you must fire, where you can conduct your business, what you can import, what you can export, etc.

    Fascism is government control of markets. An example today is government's attempt to control the energy markets. Their justification is 'environmental sustainability', 'prevention of climate change or global warming', 'green energy', and such religious buzzwords like this. NONE of them have any meaning outside their use as buzzwords.

    The Church of Green, the Church of Global Warming, the Church of Covid; all stem from the Church of Karl Marx, which is also the Church of Plato, which is also the counsel of the character of Satan in the bible: compulsion. In all three cases, this compulsion is justified as 'caring for the people' so victimized. It was exactly the same argument slave owners used to justify slavery...another form of socialism. The only difference here is that the slave owner is the 'government'.

    Under communism, government OWNS the markets, and the property with it. They don't abolish property, but they abolish private ownership of it.

    Fascism is a stepping stone to communism. First government controls the markets, then they use their own incompetence to justify taking the markets by force and owning them. Private property ownership goes with it.

    Mussolini may have coined the word 'fascism', but the practice has existed long before Mussolini. It is as old as civilization on the Earth itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    no......you just prevented it from being built........now you are seeing why you were wrong.......
    How did I prevent the border wall from being built?

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    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    How did I prevent the border wall from being built?
    maybe you didn't........maybe you were in a coma from 2016 until 2020, or just became a lib'rul since January.....or maybe you're Chinese.....
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    When will the moment arrive when Righties understand that Democrats and American liberals aren't "Commies"?

    They haven't been for decades and even in the 30's at the height of the Communist movement in the West it was a small part of American leftism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    When will the moment arrive when Righties understand that Democrats and American liberals aren't "Commies"?

    They haven't been for decades and even in the 30's at the height of the Communist movement in the West it was a small part of American leftism.
    WHY DO THE LEFTIST WANT TO TAKE AWAY FELLOW AMERICAN'S RIGHTS

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    Into the Night Soil

    Under fascism, you still keep your property.
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    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Communism barely exists in the world anymore.
    It never existed in its theoretical form in any developed nation.

    Socialism operates in parallel with capitalism in virtually every economy.
    Those who would describe capitalism and socialism as a binary choice are either being deliberately disingenuous
    or are incredibly ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    maybe you didn't........maybe you were in a coma from 2016 until 2020, or just became a lib'rul since January.....or maybe you're Chinese.....
    So, now the Chinese were responsible for Mexico, NOT sending the orange grifter a check?

    Maybe it was one of Dotard's best friends?

    August 20 2020
    Steve Bannon, fresh off a seven-month stint in Trump’s White House and a key role in the president’s 2016 campaign. He provided We Build the Wall with the much-needed nonprofit organization and so much more: strategic guidance, plugs in conservative media and the stamp of approval from someone in Trumpworld. He also enlisted several prominent far-right figures for a 2019 Arizona event to promote the scheme.

    Bannon helped launch an endeavor Donald Trump Jr. called “private enterprise at its finest.” That story ended Thursday with a wide-ranging federal indictment charging Bannon, Kolfage and two alleged co-conspirators with defrauding donors to We Build the Wall.

    The indictment alleges that some donors contacted Kolfage and said that, although they did not have a lot of money, “they were giving what they could because they trusted” the group to use it on a border wall. Instead, Bannon and his co-conspirators used the money to subsidize a lavish lifestyle of speedboats, cars, cosmetic surgery and travel, according to federal prosecutors. HuffPost interviewed some of the donors on Thursday who now feel “taken.”

    Gullible teabaggers (http://www.teaparty.org)...........................As if there is any other kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Revolution View Post
    WHY DO THE LEFTIST WANT TO TAKE AWAY FELLOW AMERICAN'S RIGHTS
    Why do teabaggers (www.teaparty.org)?

    April 8 2021
    Of all the changes the widely criticized Senate Bill 202 made to Georgia’s election law, the State Elections Board’s new power to replace a duly elected county elections board with a single person is perhaps the most drastic.

    A provision nestled within the law allows the board to intervene with "underperforming" county election boards and replace them.

    The bill allows state legislative representatives, county commissioners or the State Elections Board itself to request an investigation of the county’s election’s superintendent. For some counties, that means replacing the probate judge, but in others, it means replacing an entire election board with a single individual.

    More teabagger (www.teaparty.org) want to do the same, overturn elections when they don't like the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Spain, Italy, Germany...Fascism all suddenly arose there during the same set of years not spontaneously, but because the plague of in-your-face communist aggression, insurrection, anarchy, and mass murder provoked the living shit out of the people until the backlash ended up going way too far in the other direction.

    Don't take my word for it. Look it up. Every single case where fascism emerged was preceded by YEARS of unprovoked communist political violence. Fascism is a reaction to non-stop communist abuses of power.

    Fast forward to modern times. President Trump rose to power without being provoked into it by any of this lunatic communist rioting, armed revolution, or terrorism, and demonstrated literally none of the characteristics of a fascist (which is why they can't name a single example).

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    -Democrats support government-run everything.——Nazis support government-run everything.——President Trump stands for free markets, limited government.

    -Democrats support gun confiscation.——Nazis support gun confiscation.——President Trump stands for armed, free citizens.

    -Democrats support abortion.——Nazis support abortion.——President Trump is anti-abortion.

    -Democrats support censorship.——Nazis support censorship.——President Trump stands for free speech.

    -Democrats support nanny state handouts.——Nazis support nanny state handouts.——President Trump stands for self-reliance.

    -Democrats support racist preferential treatment.——Nazis support racist preferential treatment.——President Trump stands for actual equality.

    -Democrats support taxpayer-funded indoctrination.——Nazis support taxpayer-funded indoctrination.——President Trump stands for school choice, actual education.

    -Democrats support illegal, unprovoked wars.——Nazis support illegal, unprovoked wars.——President Trump stands for historic progress toward peace, as with Korea.

    -Democrats support no freedom of religion.——Nazis support no freedom of religion.——President Trump stands for free religious exercise.

    -Democrats support rigged news media.——Nazis support rigged news media.——President Trump stands for freedom of the press.

    -Democrats support propagandized entertainment.——Nazis support propagandized entertainment.——President Trump stands for agenda-free entertainment.

    -Democrats support a rigged justice system.——Nazis support a rigged justice system.——President Trump stands for equal protection under the law.

    -Democrats support persecution of dissent.——Nazis support persecution of dissent.——President Trump stands for vigorous, open debate.

    -Democrats support violent mob rule.——Nazis support violent mob rule.——President Trump stands for the rule of law.

    -Democrats support employment quotas, guarantees.——Nazis support employment quotas, guarantees.——President Trump stands for merit-based employment.

    -Democrats support redistribution of wealth.——Nazis support redistribution of wealth.——President Trump stands for 'You keep what you earn.'

    -Democrats support taking over corporations.——Nazis support taking over corporations.——President Trump stands for protecting property rights.

    -Democrats support mandatory profit-sharing.——Nazis support mandatory profit-sharing.——President Trump stands for running your own business.

    -Democrats support government pensions for all.——Nazis support government pensions for all.——President Trump stands for self-reliance, 401k.

    Yet Democrats (communists), who want total control but cannot seize it without inventing a Hitler to overthrow, responded by endlessly SMEARING him as one and insisting that fascism was rising up all around us all the time, despite no one being able to see or point to any part of anything like that happening, based on literally nothing but their own made-up hysteria and them projecting their own tyrannical corruption, bigotry, and sleaze onto others with an unending blur of outrageously false hoaxes.

    -the "Trump gassed protesters to give a speech" hoax
    -the Russia collusion hoax
    -the "Trump told people to drink Lysol" hoax
    -the Covington Catholic hoax
    -the Charlottesville "very fine people" hoax
    -the Roy Moore pedophile hoax
    -the Kavanaugh rape gang hoax
    -the "repealing Net Neutrality will destroy the Internet" hoax
    -the Hydroxchloroquine hoax
    -the Jussie Smollett hoax
    -the "Investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" hoax
    -the Ukraine transcript hoax
    -the Duke Lacrosse team hoax
    -the Trayvon Martin hoax
    -the "uninsured crisis" hoax
    -the multitude of college hate crime hoaxes
    -the "deceptively edited video" Planned Parenthood hoax
    -the "children in cages" hoax
    -the Michael Cohen perjury/contacting the Russians hoaxes
    -the SPLC "hate group" hoax
    -the "Trump mocking people with disabilities" hoax
    -the "you can keep your doctor" hoax
    -the "immigrants are rapists, criminals, animals" hoax
    -the Kavanaugh "white power symbol" hoax
    -the "Trump asked Putin to hack the DNC" hoax
    -the polar bear dying from climate change hoax
    -the "Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase guns" hoax
    -the Scaramucci Russian bankers hoax
    -the "Muslim ban" hoax
    -the global warming "consensus" hoax
    -the "Obama's scandal-free presidency" hoax
    -the Trump Jr. WikiLeaks hoax
    -the Iran nuclear appeasement hoax
    -the "polls show Trump will lose" hoax
    -the "Obamacare will never fund abortions or illegal immigrants" hoax
    -the "Hillary exonerated" hoax
    -the "white privilege" hoax
    -the voter suppression hoax
    -the "hands up don't shoot" hoax
    -the "Trump called soldiers losers" hoax
    -the "peaceful protesters" hoax
    -the "Trump used a Nazi eagle" hoax
    -the "Trump ignored Russia putting bounties on U.S. soldiers" hoax
    -the coronavirus hoax
    -the "Trump used a Nazi red triangle" hoax
    -the "Trump admitted to sexual assault" hoax
    -the "penises cause climate change" hoax
    -the "Trump denying passports to Latinos" hoax
    -the "Mission Accomplished" hoax

    Once they had repeated the "fascism" smear enough times to convince themselves and to rationalize burning down cities, stealing elections, and persecuting and terrorizing everyone out of their rights as if under attack, they moved forward with the plan.

    Eventually, by design, this endless psychotic violence, injustice, and provocation accomplished its goal of sparking an outraged backlash (grandmas taking selfies in the Capitol on 1/6), which Democrats now spend every waking moment hyperventilating about, retaliating against, and frantically scrambling to spin as the equivalent of Pearl Harbor (pay no attention to the four years straight of HUNDREDS of Democrat terrorist attacks, cheered and funded by Democrat officials).

    They finally manufactured their phony Hitler to rage against and use for constant attacks on everyone's rights. This is known as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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    Now, the communist regime of Resident Biden has already broken records with its rule by executive orders (Democrats said Trump issuing far fewer was proof that he was Hitler) and is invading our personal text messages in blatant violation of the 4th Amendment, sending federal agents to our doors to pressure us into getting vaccinated for a 99.7% survival rate case of the sniffles, and is apparently even now gearing up to dox his political opponents using any observation about Election Theft 2020 as a basis for claiming non-Democrats are a radicalization threat (again, never mind the last 4 years of Democrat terrorism, encouraged and funded by elected Democrats).

    Attachment 20397
    Aside from all of this trolling and ridiculous hogwash you put here, consider the reality that fascism is actually a reaction and a result of the moral rot decay, insanity, treason, sedition and other types of deplorable and uncivilized ways among corrupt and misguided so-called human beings who are incapable of co existing in a civilized society; many of whom forsake their God given virtues but choose to counsel in the sewer as slaves of the devil. This includes and to which degrades the ability of humanity to move forward in a civilized, productive, informed and decent way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    So, now the Chinese were responsible for Mexico, NOT sending the orange grifter a check?

    Maybe it was one of Dotard's best friends?

    August 20 2020
    Steve Bannon, fresh off a seven-month stint in Trump’s White House and a key role in the president’s 2016 campaign. He provided We Build the Wall with the much-needed nonprofit organization and so much more: strategic guidance, plugs in conservative media and the stamp of approval from someone in Trumpworld. He also enlisted several prominent far-right figures for a 2019 Arizona event to promote the scheme.

    Bannon helped launch an endeavor Donald Trump Jr. called “private enterprise at its finest.” That story ended Thursday with a wide-ranging federal indictment charging Bannon, Kolfage and two alleged co-conspirators with defrauding donors to We Build the Wall.

    The indictment alleges that some donors contacted Kolfage and said that, although they did not have a lot of money, “they were giving what they could because they trusted” the group to use it on a border wall. Instead, Bannon and his co-conspirators used the money to subsidize a lavish lifestyle of speedboats, cars, cosmetic surgery and travel, according to federal prosecutors. HuffPost interviewed some of the donors on Thursday who now feel “taken.”

    Gullible teabaggers (http://www.teaparty.org)...........................As if there is any other kind.
    no, the Chinese are not responsible for Mexico.......the Chinese are responsible for Biden........lib'ruls are responsible for the wall not being built......
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    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    Why do teabaggers (www.teaparty.org)?

    April 8 2021
    Of all the changes the widely criticized Senate Bill 202 made to Georgia’s election law, the State Elections Board’s new power to replace a duly elected county elections board with a single person is perhaps the most drastic.

    A provision nestled within the law allows the board to intervene with "underperforming" county election boards and replace them.

    The bill allows state legislative representatives, county commissioners or the State Elections Board itself to request an investigation of the county’s election’s superintendent. For some counties, that means replacing the probate judge, but in others, it means replacing an entire election board with a single individual.

    More teabagger (www.teaparty.org) want to do the same, overturn elections when they don't like the results.
    poor liberals lying again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Revolution View Post
    poor liberals lying again
    You're on this blog all day and everyday, so when do you find time to go to work and earn a living???????????????
    Lock Him Up

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