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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Probably one of the many monuments we have just been removing, if this quisling had one.
    Yes, after other nations showed you the way, you meekly trooped along. Belatedly.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-55077736

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Injuns didn't consider ownership of land to be a thing.
    Why the 'fighting' and those 'Treaties'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Why the 'fighting' and those 'Treaties'?
    If you'd only gotten an education, maybe you'd know.

    https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/american-indian-wars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    If you'd only gotten an education, maybe you'd know.

    https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/american-indian-wars
    Hunter-Gatherers lost out to the Agricultural Age.
    Thomas Paine had an interesting solution to this.

    "Agrarian Justice
    Agrarian Justice is the title of a pamphlet written by Thomas Paine and published in 1797, which proposed that those who possess cultivated land owe the community a ground rent, which justifies an estate tax to fund universal old-age and disability pensions and a fixed sum to be paid to all citizens upon reaching maturity.Wikipedia"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Hunter-Gatherers lost out to the Agricultural Age. Thomas Paine had an interesting solution to this. "Agrarian Justice is the title of a pamphlet written by Thomas Paine and published in 1797, which proposed that those who possess cultivated land owe the community a ground rent, which justifies an estate tax to fund universal old-age and disability pensions and a fixed sum to be paid to all citizens upon reaching maturity."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Feel free to donate as much as you can: https://fiscal.treasury.gov/public/g...overnment.html
    If 'everyone' owns the 'Land' in the Beginning ... how do those that are 'Unlanded' in what ever 'present' we are in, become compensated.
    It was an interesting question as the 'Agriculturalists' prevailed over the 'Hunter-Gathers' in Early America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    If 'everyone' owns the 'Land' in the Beginning ... how do those that are 'Unlanded' in what ever 'present' we are in, become compensated.

    Why should they be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Why should they be?
    Well, if at the time, you are able to go and pick Oranges off a Tree as a 'Hunter-Gatherer', and the next week there's a Fence with some guy saying "These are my Oranges now", it would seem logical that the person that fenced off the Land would 'owe' the Hunter-Gatherer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Well, if at the time, you are able to go and pick Oranges off a Tree as a 'Hunter-Gatherer', and the next week there's a Fence with some guy saying "These are my Oranges now", it would seem logical that the person that fenced off the Land would 'owe' the Hunter-Gatherer.
    Would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Would it?
    That (and more) was the view put forth by Paine. The eventual consensus was just to kill off the 'Complainers' and move them somewhere else. (I believe, and you can look this up if you don't believe me, that Plan was called 'The Legion Plan')

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    That (and more) was the view put forth by Paine. The eventual consensus was just to kill off the 'Complainers' and move them somewhere else. (I believe, and you can look this up if you don't believe me, that Plan was called 'The Legion Plan')

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Oh my. It's quite the thing here. You 'White People' should be ashamed of your role in selling Opium to China. Even going to War with China over your 'Right' to sell Opium to the Chinese People.
    We were too busy being a sort-of-colony at the time. Cymro d'w i.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    We were too busy being a sort-of-colony at the time. Cymro d'w i.
    You, as a White Person, should be ashamed of your role as Colonists. You exploited India for their Wealth. Have you been to 'India House'? Well of course you have.



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