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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    you said they didn't care about religion. I can only respond to the words you write. The question was not if they liked religion, or practiced religion.

    Descartes is widely known for his philosophical proof of God. The rest were all interested in religion and religious thinking. Period, full stop.

    Even atheists like Marx and Nietzsche were interested in writing and thinking about religion because of what it said about the human condition.

    For that matter, prior to about 1600, there was no distinction between theology and philosophy. Hence, Aquinas, Boetheis, Abelard, etc.
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    For two thousand years of western philosophical thinking, religion and religious thought has keenly interested philosophers. As part of the human condition it is not something that can really be ignored

    So what if Descartes mentioned God? What does that prove?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I dedicated an entire thread to Nietzsche and his version of atheism.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...90#post4383990
    You know nothing about Nietzsche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I dedicated an entire thread to Nietzsche and his version of atheism.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...90#post4383990
    Tell me what it is, you're the expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I genuinely do not see your argument.

    Kant wrote about metaphysics, music, chemistry, astronomy, epistemology, ethics, art and other topics. Why is the fact he may have mentioned religion more important than his attention to anthropology or music?
    I did not say Kant did not write about other topics. He was prolific.

    I can only respond to the words you actually wrote. You literally wrote that philosophers "don't really care about religion" - when in fact for two thousand years of western philosophical thinking, philosophers have indeed been interested in religion and religious thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I did not say Kant did not write about other topics. He was prolific.

    I can only respond to the words you actually wrote. You wrote that philosophers "don't really care about religion" - when in fact for two thousand years of western philosophical thinking, philosophers have indeed been interested in religion and religious thinking.
    You are abusing the word "care." It means, interested in, not mentioning.

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    Nietzsche thought religious people were scumbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You are abusing the word "care." It means, interested in, not mentioning.
    Ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Ok
    "I am interested in mass murder." Now what does that mean?

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    Nietzsche's "The Antichrist" was not ironically titled. He had contempt for Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nietzsche thought religious people were scumbags.
    Nothing to do with what I wrote.

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    Leibniz did talk about God and wrote, "Theodicy." But I suspect no Christian will accept the monad, which Leibniz considered his central idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Nothing to do with what I wrote.
    I don't really care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "I am interested in mass murder." Now what does that mean?
    I am going by dictionary definitions.

    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Most philosophers don't really care about religion. Otherwise, they would be theologians.
    "Care" (verb): to feel interest or concern (Merriam Webster)

    For two thousand years, western philosophers have been generally interested in religion and religious thinking, whether positive or negative.

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    Since Cypress is going to make personal attacks on me, as usual, let me say this.

    Very few philosophers in any era were religious and cared about religion. Cypress lies about this because he is a religious fundamentalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am going by dictionary definitions.



    "Care" (verb): to feel interest or concern

    For two thousand years, western philosophers have been generally interested in religion and religious thinking, whether positive or negative.

    And historians have been interested in genocide. So what.

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