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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I have literally spent thousands of hours learning about the Holocaust, and I actually never developed a hatred for German people.

    There is never a bad time to learn about the truth.

    The ancient Greeks thought the study of history was supposed to improve moral character.

    Nothing about this line of education will diminish white people in any way. Dwight Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln, and Ben Franklin will still be held in the highest esteem, and the stories of their lives and deeds will always be a fixture in American education.

    I'm thinking more about the 'timing' of the education. Through out history, one group conquered the next group. Britain is a classic example. It's the same thing all over the world. If you teach 'division' at an early age, it stays with the person a lifetime. I'm against Division and support Brotherhood. Teaching how one group was conquered, exploited, abused, or deprived to children at an early age is anti-productive in my opinion. I don't think it serves a meaningful purpose at that age, unless you want to instill hatefulness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Come back when you wish to be serious.

    I am serious. Our Enemies want to destroy America. What better way than have 'Americans' fighting 'Americans'. It costs them nothing.

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    How do you fix what slavery did to our nation?

    Reparations are symbolic at best. Funding doesn't exist for appropriate reparations.

    The slave ships happened,

    and the descendants of the slaves, not here by personal choice but in most cases knowing nowhere else,

    are still to this day discriminated against by ethnicities who arrived here willingly.

    How do you fix that?

    That kind of righteous anger will take at least another millennium to subside.

    Multi-cultural society is a hugely complex endeavor.

    For now, ALL of us of every ethnicity seriously suck at it.

    Evolution didn't come close to creating an "ultimate species" in humanity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    These are the facts America's White GOP Males don't want taught to our children:


    “In 1866, one year after the 13 Amendment was ratified (the amendment that ended slavery), Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi, Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina began to lease out convicts for labor (peonage). This made the business of arresting Blacks very lucrative, which is why hundreds of White men were hired by these states as police officers. Their primary responsibility was to search out and arrest Blacks who were in violation of Black Codes. Once arrested, these men, women and children would be leased to plantations where they would harvest cotton, tobacco, sugar cane. Or they would be leased to work at coal mines, or railroad companies. The owners of these businesses would pay the state for every prisoner who worked for them; prison labor.

    It is believed that after the passing of the 13th Amendment, more than 800,000 Blacks were part of the system of peonage, or re-enslavement through the prison system. Peonage didn’t end until after World War II began, around 1940.

    This is how it happened.

    The 13th Amendment declared that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." (Ratified in 1865)

    Did you catch that?

    It says, “neither slavery nor involuntary servitude could occur except as a punishment for a crime.” Lawmakers used this phrase to make petty offenses crimes. When Blacks were found guilty of committing these crimes, they were imprisoned and then leased out to the same businesses that lost slaves after the passing of the 13th Amendment. This system of convict labor is called peonage.

    The majority of White Southern farmers and business owners hated the 13th Amendment because it took away slave labor. As a way to appease them, the federal government turned a blind eye when southern states used this clause in the 13th Amendment to establish laws called Black Codes.

    Here are some examples of Black Codes:


    In Louisiana, it was illegal for a Black man to preach to Black congregations without special permission in writing from the president of the police. If caught, he could be arrested and fined. If he could not pay the fines, which were unbelievably high, he would be forced to work for an individual, or go to jail or prison where he would work until his debt was paid off. If a Black person did not have a job, he or she could be arrested and imprisoned on the charge of vagrancy or loitering.

    This next Black Code will make you cringe. In South Carolina, if the parent of a Black child was considered vagrant, the judicial system allowed the police and/or other government agencies to “apprentice” the child to an "employer". Males could be held until the age of 21, and females could be held until they were 18. Their owner had the legal right to inflict punishment on the child for disobedience, and to recapture them if they ran away.

    This (peonage) is an example of systemic racism - Racism established and perpetuated by government systems. Slavery was made legal by the U.S. Government. Segregation, Black Codes, Jim Crow and peonage were all made legal by the government, and upheld by the judicial system. These acts of racism were built into the system, which is where the term “Systemic Racism” is derived.

    This is the part of "Black History" that most of us were never told about.”

    #damonkrobertsrealtor
    I knew about none of this. Thank you for posting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Revolution View Post
    Phantasmal is a liberal bitch...
    And you are an Incel tard. And always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    How do you fix what slavery did to our nation?

    Reparations are symbolic at best. Funding doesn't exist for appropriate reparations.

    The slave ships happened,

    and the descendants of the slaves, not here by personal choice but in most cases knowing nowhere else,

    are still to this day discriminated against by ethnicities who arrived here willingly.

    How do you fix that?

    That kind of righteous anger will take at least another millennium to subside.

    Multi-cultural society is a hugely complex endeavor.

    For now, ALL of us of every ethnicity seriously suck at it.

    Evolution didn't come close to creating an "ultimate species" in humanity.



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    Africans were Slaves in Africa before they came here. It wasn't like Africans were touring the world and suddenly were seized on the High Seas. They were Slaves in Africa being sold to the highest bidder.
    Would being a Slave in Africa, or the Caribbean, or Brazil, be much different than being a Slave in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    And you are an Incel tard. And always will be.

    ahhh are you sticking up for your lover now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Do you think this would be 'divisive'?
    Do you think this would encourage 'racial hatred'?
    Should 'discrimination' of Asians, Irish, Southern Europeans, also be taught?
    How about the Plymouth colony hanging Quakers?
    For those who claim to want to have an "honest discussion" your first two questions are fair to ask. This can apply outside the gov't as well but we'll stick to the gov't for this discussion. There have been many well meaning and well intentioned gov't programs in the past that turned out to have negative unintended consequences. You're basically trying to teach white kids (at least in California many public schools are heavily Asian or Hispanic so I don't know how this applies to them but that's for another discussion) about their privilege and that they are basically racist and oppressors.

    Now we know many (white) adults don't particularly like being called racist and will deny that they are. They also don't like to be told that they are supporters of white supremacy. It remains to be seen how young kids will react to this because it's not out of the realm that they might not do so in a positive way.

    How all this is handled will have a major determination in the "success" of such a program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Africans were Slaves in Africa before they came here. It wasn't like Africans were touring the world and suddenly were seized on the High Seas. They were Slaves in Africa being sold to the highest bidder.
    Would being a Slave in Africa, or the Caribbean, or Brazil, be much different than being a Slave in the US?
    Yea, I'm aware.

    The historical details are probably of little solace to those affected, be they previously aware of them or not.

    Brazil managed to be even later than us with abolition. They win the pony.
    It's hard to out-America America where it comes to social regressiveness.

    The black slave sellers were human garbage.
    The white slave buyers were human garbage.
    Human garbage comes in all colors.

    In America, nobody has bothered to collect and dump it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    For those who claim to want to have an "honest discussion" your first two questions are fair to ask. This can apply outside the gov't as well but we'll stick to the gov't for this discussion. There have been many well meaning and well intentioned gov't programs in the past that turned out to have negative unintended consequences. You're basically trying to teach white kids (at least in California many public schools are heavily Asian or Hispanic so I don't know how this applies to them but that's for another discussion) about their privilege and that they are basically racist and oppressors.

    Now we know many (white) adults don't particularly like being called racist and will deny that they are. They also don't like to be told that they are supporters of white supremacy. It remains to be seen how young kids will react to this because it's not out of the realm that they might not do so in a positive way.

    How all this is handled will have a major determination in the "success" of such a program.

    I place this in the realm of 'Should we teach children how the Jews killed Christ'.

    1. NOT Productive.
    2. Divisive.
    3. Not relevant to our Time Period.

    I have No Problem with teaching all the warts and moles of how current Society came to be ... as a College Course.

    I see no productive Value teaching young children 'racial hatred' based on past events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Yea, I'm aware.

    The historical details are probably of little solace to those affected, be they previously aware of them or not.

    Brazil managed to be even later than us with abolition. They win the pony.
    It's hard to out-America America where it comes to social regressiveness.

    The black slave sellers were human garbage.
    The white slave buyers were human garbage.
    Human garbage comes in all colors.

    In America, nobody has bothered to collect and dump it.

    The Bible talks of Slavery. Were they 'Human Garbage', or was it a 'Way of Life' in that Time Period?

    A 100 years from now, people may be SHOCKED that some people were used as 'Economic Slaves' by Employers that didn't share their Profits with their Workers!
    Will there be Reparations for this Tragedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I am serious. Our Enemies want to destroy America. What better way than have 'Americans' fighting 'Americans'. It costs them nothing.
    Teaching history isn’t having Americans fight Americans. Teaching that our racism is systemic isn’t having Americans pitted against Americans. It’s truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I place this in the realm of 'Should we teach children how the Jews killed Christ'.

    1. NOT Productive.
    2. Divisive.
    3. Not relevant to our Time Period.

    I have No Problem with teaching all the warts and moles of how current Society came to be ... as a College Course.

    I see no productive Value teaching young children 'racial hatred' based on past events.
    We shouldn’t be teaching about Jesus in history class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I place this in the realm of 'Should we teach children how the Jews killed Christ'.

    1. NOT Productive.
    2. Divisive.
    3. Not relevant to our Time Period.

    I have No Problem with teaching all the warts and moles of how current Society came to be ... as a College Course.

    I see no productive Value teaching young children 'racial hatred' based on past events.
    The majority of people don’t go to college, you support ignorance of history.

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