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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    BULLSHIT!

    A judge ordered the parent company for right-wing cable network One America News Network to pay MSNBC and host Rachel Maddow nearly $250,000 in legal fees after a failed defamation lawsuit.
    ...because she's tabloid trash fake news that no one can be expected to take seriously, so she gets to intentionally slander people.

    THAT'S what you're trying to congratulate yourself over as if it's some kind of victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Still liable for slander.
    Actually no, that's what the ruling found. The judge literally used the words "pure opinion" to describe her "coverage" (repeatedly humiliated conspiracy theories and lies). So for being an even bigger scumbag than CNN, she gets LESS accountability.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    ...because she's tabloid trash fake news that no one can be expected to take seriously, so she gets to intentionally slander people.

    THAT'S what you're trying to congratulate yourself over as if it's some kind of victory.
    Rachel's show is no. 1 for a reason. Because she is a good investigative reporter. She runs breaking news stories mostly every night.

    She uses facts- She tells us what people are being investigated for, she makes no assessments of her own but rather leaves it up to what the investigations is producing as facts and reports on those.

    NOTHING FAKE NEWS ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN CHALLENGE HER IN COURT, BUT THEY CAN'T SO FAR AS WHAT SHE SAYS IS TRUE AND BACKED UP WITH FACTS!

    Tell us one thing she said that is not true!

    IT'S OK IF YOU CAN'T!

    WE UNDERSTAND!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    As if we needed to hear anyone else say it, even an Obama-appointed federal judge has now ruled that Rachel Maddow's show and parent company cannot be sued for blatantly lying about people because it is clear to anyone who watches her show that it is "make up whatever we feel like" opinion instead of fact-based reporting.
    "The Obama-appointed judge Cynthia Bashant dismissed the defamation lawsuit on the grounds that Maddow’s audience knows she’s hyperpartisan, and thus, as Greenwald put it, that her audience “understands that her show consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true even when she uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them"

    That is the same argument Sidney Powell is using in Dominion's defamation suit against her.

    It is also the same argument Fox lawyers made in their defense of Tucker Carlson when Karen McDougal sued him for saying she tried to extort President Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Rachel's show is no. 1 for a reason. Because she is a good investigative reporter. She runs breaking news stories mostly every night.
    Thursday, July 8 Scoreboard: Fox News Averages More Total Primetime Viewers Than CNN and MSNBC Combined

    Do you EVER tire of humiliating yourself regurgitating wildly ignorant spoon-fed misinformation?



    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    She uses facts...
    Hence her losing half her audience overnight when Mueller contradicted everything she had spent YEARS blatantly lying to her audience about.

    Maddow Tells Viewers Taxes Going Up (80 Percent Of Taxpayers Actually Get A Tax Cut)

    Rachel Maddow’s 17 Most Audacious and Paranoid Russia Hoax Lies

    Lies, Damned Lies, & Rachel Maddow

    We get it. You guzzle the Kool-Aid like the world's most gifted porn star swallowing the fire hydrant that is Hulk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
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    That is the same argument Sidney Powell is using in Dominion's defamation suit against her.

    It is also the same argument Fox lawyers made in their defense of Tucker Carlson when Karen McDougal sued him for saying she tried to extort President Trump.
    1) Whataboutism fallacy.

    2) No one ever claimed Sidney Powell was a news outlet.

    3) Carlson's claim, unlike Maddow's, was ACCURATE. Here's exactly what he said:

    “Remember the facts of the story. These are undisputed. Two women approached Donald Trump and threatened to ruin his career and humiliate his family if he doesn’t give them money. Now, that sounds like a classic case of extortion."

    Those ARE the facts of the case. It DOES sound exactly like extortion. And even if it DIDN'T sound exactly like extortion, saying it sounds like extortion isn't claiming it was a fact that they did commit extortion. Every part of this comparison does not hold water.

    Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    1) Whataboutism fallacy.

    2) No one ever claimed Sidney Powell was a news outlet.

    3) Carlson's claim, unlike Maddow's, was ACCURATE. Here's exactly what he said:

    “Remember the facts of the story. These are undisputed. Two women approached Donald Trump and threatened to ruin his career and humiliate his family if he doesn’t give them money. Now, that sounds like a classic case of extortion."

    Those ARE the facts of the case. It DOES sound exactly like extortion. And even if it DIDN'T sound exactly like extortion, saying it sounds like extortion isn't claiming it was a fact that they did commit extortion. Every part of this comparison does not hold water.

    Next.

    The similarities of the cases was the application of laws on libel/defamation and the defense against those claims.

    Sidney Powell does not have to be a news outlet to defame.

    Powell made false statements she cannot prove about the election and Dominion. Now she is using the same defense as Fox that it was "rhetorical hyperbole."

    National Enquirer (AMI) paid McDougal $150,000 to keep her quiet. They later admitted to making the payment in concert with the Trump campaign and Cohen plead guilty to campaign finance violations and went to prison because of the payment.

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