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    Default Apropos to the Critical Race Theory debate.

    There's been a LOT of noise regarding Critical Race Theory, and whether it should be taught in schools. Well, here's a little bit of information that should get a LOT of teeth grinding, because THIS sure as hell isn't in the current history books of your local high schools, much less colleges. Enjoy:

    Black Before Columbus Came: The African Discovery of America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    There's been a LOT of noise regarding Critical Race Theory, and whether it should be taught in schools. Well, here's a little bit of information that should get a LOT of teeth grinding, because THIS sure as hell isn't in the current history books of your local high schools, much less colleges. Enjoy:

    Black Before Columbus Came: The African Discovery of America

    So what? You don't need CRT to teach anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    There's been a LOT of noise regarding Critical Race Theory, and whether it should be taught in schools. Well, here's a little bit of information that should get a LOT of teeth grinding, because THIS sure as hell isn't in the current history books of your local high schools, much less colleges. Enjoy:

    Black Before Columbus Came: The African Discovery of America

    so why not teach kids about the discoveries of black explorers instead of teaching them they are suppressed by white people?.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    so why not teach kids about the discoveries of black explorers instead of teaching them they are suppressed by white people?.......
    You'll be on your death bed and still wont have an answer to this question.

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    This guy's an idiot. He presents a mishmash of what amounts to cherry picked bullshit to try and support his crackpot theory. For example, he mentions spear tips on Hispaniola. Are any of these still available for examination?

    He should show evidence that sub-Saharan African societies had sufficient knowledge to build and operate ships in open ocean. He conveniently ignores this entirely.

    At 5:30 he suggests "trans-Atlantic trade" implying that African societies were transiting the Atlantic to and fro the Americas carrying on trade. What actual evidence is there of this? Can you say none?

    At 8:05 he shows us a "Nubian" boat. Nubia as a nation was on the Red Sea. That hardly means they transposed that technology to West Africa and the Atlantic. The Nubians, like the Egyptians to their north, used similar technology at sea. Neither was really capable of open ocean travel as they lacked the means of navigation for that.

    But the biggest flaw in his rambling lecture is that Columbus did something nobody before him did: He came back to "civilization" with proof and written documentation of his discovery. The Vikings didn't do that. The Polynesians didn't do that. It is possible that the Japanese go to the new world but didn't return. There's a slim chance some Irish made it but couldn't share their discovery.

    That's the thing that makes what Columbus did unique: He told everybody else about what he'd found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    so why not teach kids about the discoveries of black explorers instead of teaching them they are suppressed by white people?.......
    Because the evidence is tissue thin at best and a nonsense conspiracy theory of sorts at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Because the evidence is tissue thin at best and a nonsense conspiracy theory of sorts at worst.
    /shrugs......ages ago when I was in grade school they were still teaching that Columbus discovered America........and that was obviously a nonsense conspiracy of disinformation.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This guy's an idiot. He presents a mishmash of what amounts to cherry picked bullshit to try and support his crackpot theory. For example, he mentions spear tips on Hispaniola. Are any of these still available for examination?

    He should show evidence that sub-Saharan African societies had sufficient knowledge to build and operate ships in open ocean. He conveniently ignores this entirely.

    At 5:30 he suggests "trans-Atlantic trade" implying that African societies were transiting the Atlantic to and fro the Americas carrying on trade. What actual evidence is there of this? Can you say none?

    At 8:05 he shows us a "Nubian" boat. Nubia as a nation was on the Red Sea. That hardly means they transposed that technology to West Africa and the Atlantic. The Nubians, like the Egyptians to their north, used similar technology at sea. Neither was really capable of open ocean travel as they lacked the means of navigation for that.

    But the biggest flaw in his rambling lecture is that Columbus did something nobody before him did: He came back to "civilization" with proof and written documentation of his discovery. The Vikings didn't do that. The Polynesians didn't do that. It is possible that the Japanese go to the new world but didn't return. There's a slim chance some Irish made it but couldn't share their discovery.

    That's the thing that makes what Columbus did unique: He told everybody else about what he'd found.
    Columbus returned and told everybody he made it to India, he even named the folks he found "Indians" even though he was nowhere near India.
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    why are conservatives so weirded out about CRT? it is not a required course, not taught in public K-12 schools? it is obvious to those who know anything about the human race, that the differences between the races are negligible. so if you can logically look at this country and how blacks have fared versus white, you have to believe there must be other factors. the same could be done with women in this country. do conservatives still believe women are inferior in intelligence, in logic, in courage, in the ability to lead? but if you look back on how women fared in this country vs men, it was not until 3 decades or so ago they were finally thought to be equal, not just equal in the eyes of the law. isn't that similar to CRT? women did not succeed because of a male dominated society that held them down. blacks did not succeed because of a white society that held them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Columbus returned and told everybody he made it to India, he even named the folks he found "Indians" even though he was nowhere near India.
    He still told everyone what he found. Those that came before him didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    You'll be on your death bed and still wont have an answer to this question.
    That's a fact. Why don't they want to teach them how it really was?

    I've been trying to figure out where all this is heading and what the Democrats or globalists intend to do with all this propaganda.

    Theory 1: Ignite a race war, then swoop in like Nazis and "restore order".

    Theory 2: Push for re-segregation of whites and blacks.

    Ofc they would never consider some black peoples' family has been in the same spot for hundreds of years..oh no!

    Theory 2 ain't gonna fly at all.

    Any other theories on what goal they're trying to achieve with this bullshit? Or is it all just noise to bring the whole thing down?
    Last edited by Matt Dillon; 06-25-2021 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That's a fact. Why don't they want to teach them how it really was?

    I've been trying to figure out where all this is heading and what the Democrats or globalists intend to do with all this propaganda.

    Theory 1: Ignite a race war, then swoop in like Nazis and "restore order".

    Theory 2: Push for re-segregation of whites and blacks.

    Ofc they would never consider some black peoples' family has been in the same spot for hundreds of years..oh no!

    Theory 2 ain't gonna fly at all.

    Any other theories on what goal they're trying to achieve with this bullshit? Or is it all just noise to bring the whole thing down?
    I wouldnt be so sure of theory 2:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/4587577002/

    There's a pic of Alabama gov George Wallace blocking the entrance to the University of Alabama. The leftist cunts here will be so proud. I even suspect a few of the really retarded leftists here will choke their chicken looking at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That's a fact. Why don't they want to teach them how it really was?

    I've been trying to figure out where all this is heading and what the Democrats or globalists intend to do with all this propaganda.

    Theory 1: Ignite a race war, then swoop in like Nazis and "restore order".

    Theory 2: Push for re-segregation of whites and blacks.

    Ofc they would never consider some black peoples' family has been in the same spot for hundreds of years..oh no!

    Theory 2 ain't gonna fly at all.

    Any other theories on what goal they're trying to achieve with this bullshit? Or is it all just noise to bring the whole thing down?
    You should work for Fox News.

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