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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Hmmmm ... I've never really thought about it. I'm open to it. Geeko made a good point about a crowded field of Candidates being easily narrowed down.
    Agreed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    YES! What I like about it, is people are eliminated from the bottom to the top!

    I wish we would have used this to select our Democratic Presidential candidate in 2020!

    It works especially great when too many people run for one office.

    It helps so that the bottom-feeders are eliminated and don't get to be in any other further debates.
    Agreed about winnowing the herd quickly.

    IMO, it's best to start pushing for ranked elections at local and state levels. Once people see both the results and the wisdom of it, they'll more likely push for it in national elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    LOL. Yes on the glasses, mostly for reading, but with a pipe. I'm retired with a military pension and a 401k. Why are you so afraid to admit you'll still be a loser in 5 years?

    Have why are you so angry? All anger is part of a fear reaction, that's normal. Continually being angry or displaced aggression as you always display on JPP indicates a high amount of stress in your life without any resolutions. My best advice is to seek advice from people you respect and trust (not the drunks at your bar) and act on that advice.

    Most good advice involves cleaning up your act, having a five-year plan (and 10 and 20 year plans too if possible), acting on those plans, better relations with family (at least those who are willing, the others will come around once they see you acting maturely). Taking additional training or even looking at another career path.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I do not think an amendment is impossible. As soon as Republicans start winning the popular vote but losing the the EC they will be begging democrats to help pass an amendment to abolish the EC.
    LOL. What year do you expect that to happen?

    Let's not forget that it takes 38 States to ratify an Amendment. Which of these states below you think would support eliminating the Electoral College?

    IMO, ranking is a faster track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    What?
    Consider an online English class for starters. Being able to read and write, especially write, well will produce positive results and advancement in management because they have to write reports all the time. No managers want to have to continually have to rewrite reports of their supervisors or lower managers.

    What job would you like to be working in 5 years? 10?


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    https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Consider an online English class for starters. Being able to read and write, especially write, well will produce positive results. What job would you like to be working in 5 years? 10?


    Khan Academy is free:


    https://www.khanacademy.org/test-pre...sh-conventions

    https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/grammar

    https://www.khanacademy.org/humaniti...andard-english
    Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Lmfao the founders were smarter than you fucking leftists cunts. They knew cunts have always existed and always will and that's why we have the EC.
    In national elections, the GOP has not been able to consistently convince a majority-plurality of voters of the superiority of their ideas since the mid to late 20th century.

    Whatever the founders were doing, they certainly did not intend to create a tyranny of the minority*.


    * of eligible voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Huh?
    QED. That's Latin for "quod erat demonstrandum" ("that which was to be demonstrated"). In short, you demonstrated my own point for everyone to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    In national elections, the GOP has not been able to consistently convince a majority-plurality of voters of the superiority of their ideas since the mid to late 20th century.

    Whatever the founders were doing, they certainly did not intend to create a tyranny of the minority*.


    * of eligible voters
    But they did intend to prevent a tyranny of the majority. There is no other reason for the EC. Without it new York and California would elect presidents. That's hardly a representation of all of America. Leftists are like the kid we had in my neighborhood growing up. Everytime the rules worked against him winning he wanted to change the rules. It was most hilarious when we would play baseball. If his team had fewer runs than the other team after the 9th inning he would demand we keep playing. Lmfao. I can't tell you how many times we just left him there screaming. Good memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    OK. Thanks. The concept is so new to me I don't know how to digest it yet. I've never seen it in actual use. So this Election in NYC will be a learning experience for me. Thanks for your input.
    What I like most about it, is it completely eliminates the need for an expensive and unnecessary runoff of any primary!

    It would have probably eliminated the idiot Donald Trump from the primaries before the very first national REPUBLICAN debate!

    Because as I remember- he started out at the very bottom of the Republican list and only gained attention when he came out as a slasher during the debate- AND THE REPUBLICANS SAID- "I WANT THIS SLASHER AND PSYCHO IDIOT TO BE MY PRESIDENT"!

    And then the cluster fuck, BRAINFARTS, and snowball TRUMPTARD effect happened!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    QED. That's Latin for "quod erat demonstrandum" ("that which was to be demonstrated"). In short, you demonstrated my own point for everyone to see.
    I'm sorry could you repeat that? I was wiping my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    In national elections, the GOP has not been able to consistently convince a majority-plurality of voters of the superiority of their ideas since the mid to late 20th century.

    Whatever the founders were doing, they certainly did not intend to create a tyranny of the minority*.


    * of eligible voters
    Agreed. The Republican Party has been on a downward course to Authoritarianism since Jerry Falwell and Newt.

    The "Tea Party" on 1/6 was just the latest new chapter. I strongly doubt many State and Federal politicians and workers want to see a repeat performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    I'm sorry could you repeat that? I was wiping my ass.
    With your GED or your shirttail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    LOL. What year do you expect that to happen?

    Let's not forget that it takes 38 States to ratify an Amendment. Which of these states below you think would support eliminating the Electoral College?

    IMO, ranking is a faster track.

    I am old enough to remember that in 2000 when polling showed it looked like Al Gore might win the EC while losing the popular vote, Team Bush was expressing outrage and challenging whether that would actually be a legitimate Gore victory.

    On election night 2012, Trump was rage tweeting about the unfairness that, based on early returns, he thought Obama would win the EC while losing the pop vote to Romney.

    So yes, I think we are one election away from Republicans decisively winning the popular vote while being denied the presidency due to the EC, for a constitutional amendment to be a real possibility

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    With your GED or your shirttail?
    Did you say something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am old enough to remember that in 2000 when polling showed it looked like Al Gore might win the EC while losing the popular vote, Team Bush was expressing outrage and challenging whether that would be a legitimate Gore victory.

    On election night 2012, Trump was rage tweeting about the unfairness that, based on early returns, he thought Obama would win the EC while losing the pop vote

    So yes, I think we are one election away from Republicans decisively winning the popular vote while being denied the presidency due to the EC, for a constitutional amendment to be a real possibility
    Ranking would have knocked out Nader and seen Gore as the clear winner just like ranking would have knocked out Perot and seen GHW Bush as the clear winner in 1992.

    Disagreed that a popular vote loss by the Republicans will see a huge swing in Red States ratifying eliminating the EC. Most know the population increases are mainly in the cities.

    Hillary's infamous "3 million votes" were on the West Coast, one or two states. Eliminating the EC means the most populous states dictate the leadership of the USA to all smaller states.
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